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wyograd76
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This may have already been discussed on this board, if so I apologize. My search didn't turn up what I was looking for.

I am an 8th grade teacher, currently teaching an honors math class. Soon my students will be registering for high school courses for next year. Our district poilicy is that students may not continue in honors if their average is below 85. I have quite a few students in the 85-89 range, who must work very hard to be there. The other math teacher and I disagree on what path these students should take. My personal opinion is that as long as they are willing to do the work, they should stay in honors math for next year. I think an 85 in an honors class will carry more weight with college admissions than a 95 in a regular math class. I thought colleges liked to see that a student challenged himself. The other teacher disagrees, and cautioned his classes that colleges would much rather see a 99 in regular math than an 85 in honors, and the low honors grade would hinder college admission.

What are your thoughts, wise parents?

I am an 8th grade teacher, currently teaching an honors math class. Soon my students will be registering for high school courses for next year. Our district poilicy is that students may not continue in honors if their average is below 85. I have quite a few students in the 85-89 range, who must work very hard to be there. The other math teacher and I disagree on what path these students should take. My personal opinion is that as long as they are willing to do the work, they should stay in honors math for next year. I think an 85 in an honors class will carry more weight with college admissions than a 95 in a regular math class. I thought colleges liked to see that a student challenged himself. The other teacher disagrees, and cautioned his classes that colleges would much rather see a 99 in regular math than an 85 in honors, and the low honors grade would hinder college admission.

What are your thoughts, wise parents?

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## Replies to: Honors vs regular classes in high school

32Junior Member421Member...which doesn't really answer the question either way, haha. but in my experience, i think challenging yourself is better.

9,406Senior MemberBut, I do not believe that it is always better to get the B in honors....especially if you are not the kind of student who will be applying to top tier schools.....and, yes, there will be many on CC who disagree with me, so stay tuned.....

10,882Senior MemberI'm assuming you're not at a school where most want HYPS , because if you were, all these kid's parents would be telling them what to do, not their teachers!

In some states, it appears that they just use the average without considering strength of courses at the city/state colleges. So you should investigate your state college admission policies for an answer for those schools.

I don't think there's a private college in the land that wouldn't prefer to see the honors classes.

966Member560Member9,406Senior Memberhmom: in terms of all private colleges "wanting" to see the honors classes....yea, sure, they can want it, doesn't mean they are all going to get it....especially if you go to a school where honors and AP's are not a dime a dozen....or where you're not even allowed to take them without being an "A" student in regular.....

Again, I still think it depends on the tier of school we are talking about......

6,263Senior MemberI agree that most Adcoms answer the question that they like to see the A in honors vs the B in honors and A in regular math. However, my son has a very very consistent B+ in accelerated and AP Math throughout upper school. If he had been in regular math he surely would have aced the class, but he wouldn't have learned nearly as much. And another thing, had he not been in accelerated math he would have not been able to easily register for accelerated sciences and in those he's always had straight A's.

9,406Senior Member2,625Senior Member206Junior MemberI think it depends on what grades they are getting in other honors classes. If they are mostly Bs, they should probably switch to regular math. If they're mostly As, staying in honors math would probably be okay.

It seems that mostly As and some Bs in a sort-of rigorous curriculum is better than mostly Bs in a very rigorous curriculum. While I think that a student with the tough classes does actually learn more and benefits from challenging themselves, learning how to "jump through hoops" is just as important in life as intelligence. College admissions is not immune to this. Knowledge and rigor are important, but you have to choose wisely and play your cards right.

When you ask admissions officers if a B in honors/AP is better than an A in a regular class, they ALWAYS reply with "it's better to have an A in honors/AP". If challenging yourself but coming up short is not viewed any better than getting an easy A, then why get the B and hurt your GPA? Admissions officers are people, and they have first impressions just like everyone else. For them, unfortunately, the first impression will be GPA and class rank, both of which are significantly hurt by a B in any class.

(edit: of course, either case is better than As in all regular-level classes. Having tough courses is important, but a student taking a schedule that is too much for him/her is a bad idea.)

1,207Senior MemberOf course if the workload is interfering with one's mental health or sleep, dial it back a little. Otherwise don't be afraid of a B and a little humility.

406Member1New Member2New MemberAt my school an A in a regular class is a 4.0 GPA while in a honors class it would be a 5.0. This means that a B in a honors class is a 4.0 GPA so technically it would be the same as having an A in a regular class. This is how it is in my school so I don't know how it works where you live, but an in a honors class would be a lot better.