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Old 02-26-2007, 09:56 PM   #361
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My high school has choir and musical theatre as a class. Does that make it not count as an EC because it's an actual class and not outside of school? But musical theatre isn't recognized as fulfilling of the visual/performing arts requirement (while choir is).
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Old 03-08-2007, 01:33 PM   #362
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This thread is so huge that this has probably already been answered, but I'd really appreciate the help: Can you list private music lessons as EC's? Middle school government internship? Or sports that aren't in school?
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Old 03-09-2007, 08:38 AM   #363
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also- is it best to list how many years you participated in that specific EC? Because I just switched schools and am going to be really involved next year, senior year, but at my old school I wasn't incredibly involved, though I was president of a club, and some other ones.
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Old 03-09-2007, 09:08 AM   #364
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The common app asks applicants how long they participated in activities.
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Old 03-12-2007, 09:49 PM   #365
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what do you do if you have lots of EC's, but the application says to list them in the space provided and to refrain from additional materials (Columbia app)? Wouldn't they get mad if I send a seperate sheet, but if I don't I feel they won't know all that I've done.
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Old 03-12-2007, 11:29 PM   #366
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W/ comlumbia you really need to stick with their app. If they've moved to the common app, then it's totally cool to send a separate activities resume.
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Old 03-13-2007, 12:18 AM   #367
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Don't list things from middle school unless it's nationally prestigious (i.e. you won the national spelling bee.) Otherwise it just makes you look like you didn't do enough stuff during high school and you're reaching.
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Old 03-13-2007, 01:05 AM   #368
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You can list whatever you want, since when does it matter if it's from middle school or not? I doubt any adcom is going to think "OH MAN, THIS GUY LISTED THAT HE WON HIS ELEMENTARY SCHOOL CHESS TOURNAMENT?! GUYS, GUYS, COME GET A LOAD OF THIS STATE-SCHOOL-BOUND REJECT! BLAHARAHRHARHAHRHARHAHRHAR!"
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Old 03-17-2007, 05:41 PM   #369
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No but it might be grating to read through the laborious list of everything, most of which isn't significant. Not the impression you want to give the reading officer (or the HR person for your job interview later on, either). List the prominent and important ones. I think the advice about Nationally relevant and prestigious pre-high school honors wouldn't be over the top. My two cents.
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Old 03-17-2007, 07:34 PM   #370
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You are living in one side of life...Talk about the other side as well

Ok let’s not talk about Jill and Jenny, who has all the money, support and opportunity in this whole world. Now lets talk about a minority kid Salem or Ahmed...these two kids don't have the same 'full of joy' life Jill and Jenny had...therefore, these two kids did not have the opportunities, support or simply the time and energy to do so many EC activities...because they probably has more important thing they MUST do for themselves to catch up academically, financially or etc...

What do you say for these kids?
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Old 03-17-2007, 09:51 PM   #371
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Hi Unknown726: the experience I have with admissions officers who read for the more selective schools is that the lack of "stellar" ECs due to the fact that 1) they weren't available or 2) the student needed to work or take care of other family members -- these don't detract necessarily from a person's viablility if there are other strong areas. They try to read the app in the context of the applicant.

My ECs were fairly paltry, but I the rest of my folder convinced all the schools I applied to to offer admissions. I ended up matriculating at Yale, whom I now help recruiting as an alum.
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Old 03-18-2007, 02:13 AM   #372
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T26E4:

Thanks for this valuable info...I have always wondered what about these types of people? I have some hard working friends, who are not living as easy.

I appreciate your time for clarifying this. From the experiences with the admissions officers that you kindly shared with us, I just learned a bit.
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Old 03-24-2007, 10:39 PM   #373
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This doesn't exactly fit with the topic, but, out of curiosity...in 7th and 8th grades, I won two major awards at National History Day (I'm sure somebody's heard of it? Some 800,000 kids participate nationwide); I won second place in seventh, and took first in eighth. This is a really major award, very few people get it, hardly anybody gets it twice...is there any way I could mention it on a college app? I know it's not usually good to list middle school acomplishments, but something like this...
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Old 03-25-2007, 06:50 PM   #374
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Old 03-26-2007, 06:18 PM   #375
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Did you follow up with any similar competitions in HS?

Then you could lead into those with "After winning {blah blah blah} in 2003... I was compelled to compete in xyz..."
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