Nickel Xenon

I'd agree with you, but there are people that truely believe this sort of thing, usually, they're not the overachievers. This person seems to want to go to Harvard.

zipper

I meant under my educational system.

I'm just saying the under my system, their would be no inferiority complex, and so mo need to feel superior. I got my inferiority complex from feeling inferior as a child, how did you get yours?

Also, I am NOT a troll. I am developing a new system that will change the threads of humanity, more so than Karl Marx, Mao, Hitler, and the like.

Please share your opinions, so that I can develop a better system.

Thanks all!

brillar

Maybe we could have it for the people that want it, but I know that I could never ever ever ever ever learn that way. I know I'll have some bad professors/teachers. I've already had a ton- but I wouldn't give up the good ones to be taught from a computer. I'm too much of a social person to do that.

And there are normal schools without grades and competition- or just without competition.

I think college/schooling is just as much about as learning to deal with people on a constant basis as it is learning facts. We could be on a computer only having to deal with small amounts of people for a couple of years, but we'd eventually have to go out in the real world. The real world, where people skills are important.

Yeah, this definitely sounds a lot like 1984. Creepy.

zipper

^^^^ PLEASE read my previous posts. Their will be an heavy emphasis on social learning.

Also, hell yeah it sounds like 1984. My calling in life is to be a dictator and change the world. With everyone having a similar ideology, their will be no wars.

gprime

"With everyone having a similar ideology, their will be no wars."

There is a problem with that...some people are still sane. Even if you somehow managed to become a dictator, and I seriously doubt your ability to do so in any country of real influence or means, you could never effectively quash free thought. Hitler, Stalin and all the others you mentioned had power. But guess what? They had alot of people that disagreed with them, and tried to undermine them whenever possible. Or did you forget that Hitler's own men tried to kill him?

And, for that matter, it is interesting that you should mention the changes made by such men in a positive light. Hitler slaughtered millions of innocent people, and Stalin not likewise. So are we to assume that you too are partial to genocide and ethnic cleansing in the name of advancing irrational, impractical, socialist utopian ideals? If so, you can't really expect anybody to take you seriously. And, even if not, the lack of thought put into your plan isn't going to win you many, if any, supporters/

What you've proposed would leave the US even more educationally weak than it is now. The one thing we have going for us in that arena is the number of excellent institutions of higher education that students can select from. What you've proposed destroys these schools, be they Harvey Mudd, Deep Springs, Bennington, Babson, or otherwise. For that matter, your dream school would cease to function too. There would be no Harvard, no Stanford, no MIT under your system. More importantly though, there would be a complete breakdown in the education system that would hurt the industry you already seek to destroy by outlawing corporations.

Having read a book or two about evolution and taking a few courses in psychology doesn't make you anything special. And it certainly doesn't make a poor articulated, half-baked proposal on unwanted educational reformation any more palatable or convincing. You would do well to write down what you think now, actually educate yourself in the areas you speak of, and then look back at your original proposal. If you're a remotely rational person, seriously explored the issues, and read differing viewpoints (Friedman, Rand, Sowell), you'll begin to understand that what you're calling for is both impractical and undesirable.

Nickel Xenon

First off, I don't have an inferiority complex. I get a good feeling from accomplishing things I know not everyone can do. It's not about feeling superior than someone else, it's about being able to take pride in what I've done and knowing my hard work has paid off. It's merely for my own satisfaction. Yes, I want people to know I worked hard, but I do this more for myself than anything else. As for what you said in your previous post...

For this to happen, you would have to brainwash every person in the world. There would be no free will or original thought. Everyone would be the same, everyone would think the same thing, and there would be no individuals, just one giant mind. I think this would be very boring and I seriously doubt you're a socialist. More like a communist. I agree with what gprime said.

zipper

HELLO!

Similar ideology:

All people respect each other; everyone is equally worthy; no difference based upon race, religion, etc; everyone takes care of and considers the environment; no sweat shops; high pay for all employees, etc.

Now, is it that bad. Are those concepts listed above bad?

NO, but we do not follow them. US brutally kills the people of the Middle East, US funded Israel brutally suppresses Palestine; US companies have sweatshops all over the world; Coke hires paramilitaries to kill union workers.

Our "great" education system and government has not helped much, has it?

gprime

Zipper,

I agree in equality and want the law to reflect it. But I don't want laws forcing others to be tolerant. As a minority, I want somebody to have the right to discriminate against me.

I am for respecting the evironment within reason. But you have to spell out what you mean. For example, something like nature preserves or species protection is not reasonable. Nor is calling for stricter governmental enforcement of most standards, ranging from fuel efficiency to personal carbon output. When the choice is between progress and preserving nature, the choice should be clear. You can respect nature without being a radical leftist.

The term sweat shop is a misnomer. People work their of their own free will, and recieve pay for it. This pay is often well above the average of their home nations. In other words, everybody benefits from a sweat shop. I am opposed to slavery, but the two are not the same, and the terms cannot be used interchangably.

High pay for all doesn't work. All that does is devalue the currency to the point where it no longer works. There must be a gap in earning power, savings, worth a work and other economic measurements for a stable economy to persist. And without a stable economy, there is no society.

To say what you've said about the Isrlel/Palestine situation suggests an utter lack of familiarity with history of the region, modern day politics, the core beliefs and texts of the two primary religions, and reality itself. Such profound ignorance isn't surprising, but it shows exactly why it would serve you well to learn before you call for an elaborate reformation that cannot possibly work.

If you care to accuse any major corporation of murder, you need to provide a non-biased source that confirms it. Otherwise, you just sound like a moonbat. And do try to find an example where I can't, with five seconds of googling it, make a better counter-argument.

brillar

We don't all have to agree to stop racism, sexism, other isms, etc. Respect is not the same as everyone having the same/similar beliefs. Respect is more like everyone being different but they're able to accept it.

And, like someone said, it would actually be impossible. No one can have all six billion people on earth have 'similar ideologies.' It's impossible.

Yup, there are definitely problems in the world but getting everyone to think the same way is not the solution. How would you go about that, by the way? What if someone didn't believe in what you wanted them to? Would you kill them? Isn't that just as bad as the US "keeping the world safe for democracy" by attacking the Middle East?

There is no peaceful way to get everyone to agree... I guess the education system would be a step to brainwashing people but not everyone has access to a computer, which brings up a completely new set of problems.

zipper

Trust me, I think that I am a genius beyond all time! I think on a whole different dimension!

Please, if you would like to learn more, e-mail me. I am glad to discuss and share opinions!

You are all wrong. And I'm a genius, comparable with Noam Chomsky and Albert Einstein--two great Jews!

Nickel Xenon

Wow... Now I do believe this is a troll.

davnasca

You are an arrogant, immature school boy who proves his ignorance by comparing himself to amazing men who have had an impact on the world. You think on the dimension of an irrational child who wants everything his way, and no way else. You fail to exhibit empathy and cannot think from any other point of view than your own. We have offered countless arguments against your utopia and you reply by saying that we are all too far below you to understand and then in the next breath invite us to email you?

P.S.- Why mention that Einstein and Chomsky were Jewish, I find it irrelevant and frankly anti-semitic that you feel the need to stress that.

gprime

Davnasca, he is indeed an anti-semitic troll. He opted to respond to my valid criticisms of his irrational theory through private messages, which were laced with more idiocy and anti-semitism. When I called him on it, he implied that I was illiterate and likely dropped out of high school, even though both are obviously false. And, on the off chance he isn't a troll, then zipper is the stupidest person to have been born in years.

Nickel Xenon

Are you kidding? That was extremely immature. So he can't back up his words and instead attacks you?

zipper

gprime,

Thats because you told me that Palestine did not exist before 1945--which is obviously not true.

Also, if I am the "dumbest person in the world" how did I take 6 college courses when I'm only 17.

I also won Siemens competition semifinalist two times. And won National AP Scholar.

Also, you guys who think that I'm so dumb and criticize and mock me DONT HAVE TO POST IN THIS THREAD.

If you think I'm stupid, stop posting.