Nickel Xenon

And if no countries like your ideas?

MelancholyDane

All none of them?

EDIT: You got there first.

zipper

Well, I'm sure that at least one will. And if not, then I'll be a political philosopher. But I think one will.

Do you like my ideas.

I like your questions, by the way.

Nickel Xenon

Well, it's because you said dictator and that kind of implies coming in and taking things by force. If you're giving them a choice...it's not really being a dictator, is it?

zipper

I'm not exactly sure. But, if they vote me in, then I want to have all the power to change the system, and benifit the peoples who voted for me.

Would you vote for me, Nickel Xenon?

Nickel Xenon

But if you're voted, that's not a dictator either. It would probably take more than your lifetime to make all those changes, though. It takes a ton of time to cause change and it's very slow. You can't just say, "Stop everything! Now make it my way!" without giving people a shock. To you it may seem just like changing their education, but to them, you're changing their entire way of life.

zipper

^^^^ Well, your right. But the change, remember, isn't all that radical. It's more a refined school system. Great changes have taken place in history--Mao implementing communism, for example--and people survived.

Also, my system is not too radical. Capatlism was implemented in India and China, and other nations only a few years ago, to change is not too hard. And many countries are socialist already.

Would you vote for me, Nickel Xenon?

Nickel Xenon

Mao was an idiot. The people survived, yes, but look at the costs! And yes, your system is radical. Think of it this way. You've been told all your life that getting good grades is what matters most. So you study super hard and you're aiming for some top school. All of a sudden, a new leader says, "There's no need to be an overachiver! Grades don't matter anymore!" Well, that person will feel hurt and cheated.

That's years of their life wasted. Making good grades isn't that easy for someone. You have to sacrifice time and effort. Putting in an extra hour studying means not going out with your friends or doing something fun, but you do it to get that A. If you've been taught that nothing is handed to you and you have to work hard and all of a sudden, someone is just handing out everything without you having to do anything, you'd feel cheated and like that wasn't fair.

Someone that didn't work as hard was getting the same things as you. Where's the fairness in that? Survival isn't always pretty you know. Just because someone lived doesn't mean they're well. Look at Cuba. They're surviving, but are they well? Sorry, but I can't vote for you.

zipper

^^^^^^ You bring up a good point. But, in India, only you FINAL YEAR GRADES MATTER for college. My mother was a teacher in India. The other grades don't really matter.

Also, yes, the change will be gradual, over the course of a few years.

In India, a very very large percentage of the population does not go to school. If I offer those people this alternative, do you think they would vote for me?

Many people starve, in India. I visited, and I started to cry, when I saw hungry children. I literally wept. And I made it my goal in life, I will not die without creating great, great changes to help these people.

Nickel Xenon

In my country, they have a worse system than India. I think the literacy rate is somewhere around 80%. Most of my relatives can't even read in their own language. My grandpa can't even sign his own name. Most of my aunts are teachers, though and even they wouldn't go with this sort of system. There's no benefit to it. To them, the point of going to school is learning real world skills that will get them a good job, such as reading, writing, and math.

Everything else is extra and sure, it's nice to have, but really, they don't care about such extra materials. Learning about the stars, even if someone likes it, won't help put food on the table. If they can read and write, they can at least get jobs as teachers or secretaries instead of having to work in the fields. Most children in my country aren't motivated to just learn on their own.

Their parents aren't going to see a value in that kind of education either. Why send their kid off to talk to teachers and learn useless things when they could be working the fields? At least if the kid brings home grades they know the child is actually doing something and not wasting time. It sounds nice, getting to do everything at your pace and learning about what you like, but when you put it into the real world, it's not practical.

zipper

^^^^^^^ Sure it is! At least everyone can read and write! They can focus on the practicle, AND learn to read and write! Kids will also spend more time at home, and can learn practicle things too. Also, learning more about science can lead to more food produced. The kids don't have to focous on unnessary things, if they don't want to. I lived in a village for a while, and kids go to very little school; they mostly socialize outside of school.

And, this will be a socialist state. So everyone will have food. In India, their is enough food to feed everyone, and yet so much food is exported because of capatlism--foreigners can afford to pay more. The poor starve.

My system would rely less on materialism, and so international trade could be reduced. This would lead to less food exported, and less exploitation of the people by outside corporations.

I think that my idea is not perfect, but it's better than the current situation.


Would you vote for me, Nickel Xenon?

Nickel Xenon

No, I wouldn't. This would never fly even in El Salvador. No matter how much you try to make everyone equal, that will never happen. Even though everyone in El Salvador is poor, everyone is still unequal.

zipper

^^^^^ But isn't my system better than the current one?

Socialism does not mean everyone is equal.

Nickel Xenon

No, that'd just make things worse. If you think the gangs control everything now, whoa, just make it communist and they'll screw over the little guy even more. Communism doesn't work.

zipper

^^^^ I'm NOT communist. Also, gengs are their to make money. If they can get off a gang, and make money, then they would do so.

Socialism allows for this.