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Old 05-13-2008, 04:51 PM   #31
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In any case, more information is almost always better than less information.
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Old 05-13-2008, 09:20 PM   #32
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There's a difference between knowing that condoms and birth control exist, and knowing how to use them, and where to get them.
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Kids know about condoms and birth control, they just don't care.
Well, then abstinence-only sex ed clearly isn't effective. Comprehensive sex ed would at least open them up to the risks they're taking and teach them how to reduce them and act responsibly.
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Old 05-13-2008, 09:31 PM   #33
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Well said, helloworld!.
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Old 05-13-2008, 11:05 PM   #34
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I just realized this: Has anyone on this thread argued that comprehensive sex education is bad? The argument appears to be one side saying "abstinence only is bad" and the other side saying "now hold on, there may be other factors at play." Regardless, there appears to be a consensus that comprehensive education is good.
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Old 05-13-2008, 11:10 PM   #35
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I just realized this: Has anyone on this thread argued that comprehensive sex education is bad? The argument appears to be one side saying "abstinence only is bad" and the other side saying "now hold on, there may be other factors at play." Regardless, there appears to be a consensus that comprehensive education is good.
I can't speak for others, but I think comp education is good. But at the same time, I am opposed to curricula forced upon students and parents (see: drunks can choose to get drunk and stupid and so should students and parents). That's not to say I think abstinence-only education has truth to it, just that I don't think it's my decision to make for someone else's child.
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Old 05-14-2008, 01:13 PM   #36
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so then parents have the right to have their kids excused from sex ed, but the school shouldn't offer abstinence-only. Schools should then try to convince parents that initially want their kids to sit out that they should have them in there because it's better for them.
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Old 05-14-2008, 01:45 PM   #37
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I completely agree with helloworld!. I'd also like to input my own experience.
I went to a small rural high school in Alabama with, you guessed it! abstinence-only "sex ed". What did we talk about? Hmm. Well there were all the people on the video who were so upset that they didn't wait til they got married and had all these emotional problems now because of it. Then there were the 10 million slides showing all ranges of STDs. Did we ever once talk about condoms? Nope. The lady WASNT EVEN ALLOWED TO ANSWER QUESTIONS ABOUT THEM. By the time I was in 11th grade (got stuck in a consumer science elective I didn't want to be in) and was forced to take the program again that we'd all taken in like 8th grade as part of of the class requirements, I was fed up. I was not as liberal then as I am now, but I thought it was so freaking ridiculous that the lady could sit there and be so calm and collected as she said, "I prefer not to talk about that. here, let's talk about 'feelings'." Obviously, we did not talk about birth control options such as the pill either. Additionally, as a gay rights supporter, I thought it was blatantly homophobic not to address what happens if you CANT get married under the law. Just never have sex ever, then?
Results from this: my county has (or had, when I was in hs) the highest teen pregnancy rate in my state. I didn't know how to put on a condom till I started having sex. Fortunately I knew about birth control because I was on it for other reasons, and I was smart enough to look up rates of protection by condoms from pregnancy and STDs for myself. I didn't even know that there was such a thing as a diaphragm or female condom, until probably my freshman year of college when I found a website about alternative birth control methods, and I didn't know what they looked like until my dorm had a safe sex seminar my sophomore year and brought samples.
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