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Honestly people have no clue what a respectable amount of muscle gain is, naturally or unnaturally. A beginner, in his first year of training (notice I said HIS, women can expect probably half the #) can gain possibly around 20-30 lbs of MUSCLE (+fat,+glycogen,+water,+bone) under optimal conditions. Sadly, that number takes a dive every year after. After 20 years of lifting, a lifter will be pretty shocked to even put on five lbs lean tissue in a year. So when you hear stuff that promises 20 lbs in 3 weeks or 3 months...yeah right. For an intermediate trainee (natural), 10-20 lbs of mass in a year is VERY good progress.
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