Godfatherbob

McCain: 11
Obama: 23
Barr: 1
Neither: 3


Well, my good Sir, McCain promises four enthralling more years of the Bush economy, four more years of the Iraq war, oppression for illegal immigrants and the lower class, and benefits for the aristocracy. . . . Oh wait, you said vote for McCain?? Ohhhhh! Well in that case, because they're botards.

Mike41691

McCain: 11
Obama: 24
Barr: 1
Neither: 3

Obama is definitely more liberal than I am, but McCain is more conservative than I am. It really came down to foreign policy, which, with the state of the world today, pretty much trumps everything else in my mind. McCain is way too aggressive for my tastes.

tiff90

McCain 12
Obama 24
Barr 1
Other 3

If PA becomes a key battleground, and Paul is adament about not running, I will,as of now, vote McCain. I just can't stand BO. He is way too far to the left, at least McCain is moderate.
BO will be my generations Jimmy Carter if he wins

alluringcliche

McCain 12
Obama 25
Barr 1
Other 3

See Godfatherbob's post

Dbate

Godfatherbob, actually track record shows that he is not actually advocating Bush policies, at least not in the senatorial career, which I think is way more indicative of a candidate than what they say in a general election. McCain was actually a big advocate for immigration reform and oppossed the Bush tax cuts. But the Obama campaign is putting forth this third term for Bush stuff which just isn't true.

MBP

McCain is SOOOOO very different from Bush. people saying that this he would be another 4 years of bush are so wrong. yes, he supports the war. however, if you look at the issues that both bush and mccain were running on in 2000, you'll see that McCain is far more liberal (making him more moderate) than Bush.

i don't like McCain...
and to think that I was once optimistic about this election.

Mike41691

McCain was far more liberal than Bush, but then he suddenly became more conservative when election season came, even going as far as to vote against his own legislation because it was too liberal. I probably would have voted for 2000 McCain, but unfortunately, he has turned into just another neocon.

Dbate

Well that is just politics, look at Obama during the primaries, he was very pro universal healthcare, then after wrapping up the nomination, I haven't heard a single word about universal healthcare, politicians maneuver to what will win, McCain needed to get more conservative money so he became more conservative. But i think that when they are in office they will actually govern based on their positions prior to moving around to win.

Mike41691

I would guess that Obama hasn't talked much about universal healthcare much since the end of the primaries because it's pretty cut and dry, he supports it and McCain doesn't. His time is better spent voicing his opinions on things that undecided voters care about, not what the hardcore liberals care about. De emphasizing parts of your platform is one thing. The problem I have with McCain is he voted against or said he'd vote against his own
immigration plan. He also voted against a bill he sponsored to give citizenship to illegal immigrant's kids who graduate from high school.To me that's just ridiculous.

Dbate

That is just politics, ppl manuever to win. Yes it is hypocritcal, sure that is present on both sides. i wouldn't defend McCain's record on voting, but i would also argue that his record is very bipartisan and he has challenged the party on issues, but as he needs to appeal to his base for monetary reasons.

nbachris2788

McCain was bipartisan... almost a decade ago.

Mishiru

McCain 13
Obama 25
Barr 1
Other 3

Eh, personally I would take McCain or Hilary WAY before Obama, hm, anyone really. I will not write why; I will not defend my point of view- I will not even give you my point of view. Mostly because I'm too tried to write up a long post and go back and forth, but also because it doen't matter either way. No matter who wins, America still loses. Have a nice day everyone and enjoy your taxes.

nbachris2788

Why do Americans complain so much about taxes? The U.S. has one of the lowest tax rates in the OECD. http://ic.pressflex.com/249.pressfle...1361.photo.jpg

The problem with the U.S. is that its tax dollars are used incredibly inefficiently, leading to decay in the health care and education systems. Many countries around the world have proven that tax money can be used to create educational and health care systems that work.

Many people who complain about taxes seem to live under the wishful thought that they have earned every single cent that was spent on them by their parents, teachers, benefactors, etc. Maybe they believe in a kind of Free Market Buddhism where living a good life allows one to be reincarnated as a rich white male.

Dbate

Many ppl don't like taxes, bc they work hard for their money and every paycheck the government takes some, not bc the government did anything but bc the government can. That gets frustrating, so obviously ppl don't want tax hikes.

Jman2306

McCain 14
Obama 25
Barr 1
Other 3

I don't really like McCain though. Just the lesser of two evils, in my opinion. :/