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Anyone read From Hopeless to Harvard e-book?

RafaRafa Posts: 5Registered User New Member
edited February 2012 in College Confidential Cafe
Have any of you read the John Dorian Chang e-Book "From Hopeless to Harvard"? If so, is it worth purchasing online? It seems very helpful for getting into competitive colleges, but I haven't read it.
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Replies to: Anyone read From Hopeless to Harvard e-book?

  • absentabsent Posts: 485Registered User Member
    From here on its web page:
    I’ve been on [College Confidential] forums for months and none of the advice helped as much as this…I liked how the book helped average students

    Looks like it's geared to specifically scamming the members of this forum.

    Next:
    Your 49 pages are worth far more than the 400 by the pedantic book writers

    49 pages of an e-book for $47? ****. What you're getting: stating of the obvious based off of what he's read on this forum or other websites, consolidated into a ridiculously overpriced e-book. He provides no proof of being an admissions officer and uses a fake name.

    And finally, a nice article on the site.

    Bottom line: If you feel like wasting your money on additional BS and false promises, feel free to spend the money.
  • lawlruschanglawlruschang Posts: 11Registered User New Member
    i really suggest you, like that interesting post you've cited, read a book before criticizing it. I purchased the book yesterday and it's actually quite good. it really demystifies the whole admissions process and gives you some concrete advice on how to increase your chances.

    I'm selling my copy, email me at [email]lawlruschang@****[/email] if you're interested
  • mj rothlanmj rothlan Posts: 362Registered User Junior Member
    ^^ sketchy guy with two posts
  • 6maverick66maverick6 Posts: 61Registered User Junior Member
    The entire website looks sketchy.

    Regarding the e-book thing, how many serious college help books are released as e-books? Or for that matter, how many serious books at all?

    Most of the e-books I see are exercise books who have nothing you can't find for free or music books whose contents you could also find for free, provided you have the initiative.

    And one last thing regarding the website, my local community college's application fee is $35, which is less than the $47, supposedly less than the application fee of any ONE college (I have little reason to believe his local community colleges are much more).

    Though I haven't read the book, I don't think it says much more than "Passion. Vision. Eloquence."
  • EquilibriumEquilibrium Posts: 1,213Registered User Senior Member
    i can tell the e-book PROBABLY isn't worth it after reading what the author says you MUST do to get into top colleges.

    "1) Leadership in roles like student body president or class council representative. It’s hard to argue with accomplishments that are impressive across your entire school. Stanford will be impressed. "

    Absolutely wrong. Leadership is definitely not a "must." In addition, just having the position of "president" doesn't help you much at all.

    "3) Sports and music are critical - they demonstrate that you have diverse talents"

    lol.

    While it's unfair for me to just automatically distrust the book w/o even reading it, the suspicious website and the bogus ideas of the author make it VERY likely that this book is a complete waste of money.
  • absentabsent Posts: 485Registered User Member
    While it's unfair for me to just automatically distrust the book w/o even reading it, the suspicious website and the bogus ideas of the author make it VERY likely that this book is a complete waste of money.

    It's very likely a waste of money? Oh no. Just like the author of the book and website, I'm going to state my opinion as fact and say it is a waste of money.

    First, if anyone is even remotely interested, look at the some of the "information" the "book" has to offer (the words 'information' and 'book' being used loosely):

    http://www.hopelesstoharvard.com/documents/p7.pdf
    http://www.hopelesstoharvard.com/documents/p8.pdf

    The advice offered is obvious, and all of it can be found here on this forum or figured out through common sense. You need to have course rigor? You need to spend your summer wisely? The difference between a 2300 and 2350 on the SAT is small? Woah, thanks for the insider knowledge; I couldn't have figured that out myself at all!

    Furthermore, there are already ~40 some pages of 'information' and 'secrets' free on the website. All the "book" is going to do is repeat this information again; there's no need to waste your money at all.

    Like I said before, the website was written to scam certain audiences, and the College Confidential audience is probably at the top of the list. Don't be fooled.
  • forsaken0asisforsaken0asis Posts: 50Registered User Junior Member
    I really considered getting the book but my parents refused to pay the $47 for it and now, after seeing this thread, I feel much better that I didn't buy it.
  • T26E4T26E4 Posts: 16,938Registered User Senior Member
    $47 bucks? LOL

    Go to your local library and take your parents out to dinner with that money.
  • pacificvistapacificvista Posts: 366Registered User Junior Member
    I am almost certain that it is fake. I've looked at it. Why would you pay around 50 bucks for an e-book? If he claims he's as good as he is- why doesn't he actually get his book published? I know its tempting, but it doesn't make sense.
  • griffengriffen Posts: 1,033Registered User Member
    Here's a link to an article explaining in detail why this book is a ridiculous waste of money and a scam:

    College admissions advice: from the astute to the asinine
  • Evanescence1234Evanescence1234 Posts: 64Registered User Junior Member
    i just got this book. but i didn't know it was an ebook. i thot they would mail you a hard copy. does anyone know?
  • eternaltortureeternaltorture Posts: 77Registered User Junior Member
    No, it's just an e-book, no hard copies of it.
  • tal1213tal1213 Posts: 71Registered User Junior Member
    It is not a scam. I read it, and there's a lot of little things that make a big difference that you can learn. And you don't have to second guess on what the schools want anymore.
  • musicsweetiemusicsweetie Posts: 169Registered User Junior Member
    is it possible that I could buy the book from you for a discounted price? my parents refuse to buy me the book because it is too expensive, but from what I read off his site, I believe that he's telling the truth..perhaps his "campainging" strategies aren't working so well.
  • jefgreenjefgreen Posts: 452Registered User Member
    Sorry, but many of the secrets and other blather provided in his book are absolute nonsense.
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