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09-24-2007, 02:45 PM
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#166 | | Member
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| Um, so where is all the love for OSU? We destroyed the Jake Locker experience and manhandled Northwestern. It wasn't even halfway through the FIRST QUARTER and we already had 28 points. Chris Wells is on fire and so is James Laurinaitis. Go Buckeyes! | 
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09-24-2007, 03:37 PM
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| ^ Maybe this is why (from a Rivals college football message board post):
OSU's 1st four games were a YAWN:
Y-Youngstown St. - don't start too tough.
A-Akron - getting tougher lol
W-Washington - TY in a big game come on
N-Northwestern - lost to Duke. enough said. | |
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09-24-2007, 05:32 PM
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| Again, you're ignoring the implications that come from the offense Tulsa runs. That offense forces makes up for a lack of talent by putting unheard of pressure on the defense - no subs, an inability to exploit normal matchups, etc.
And also you've never heard of the "Bendability Index" http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com...e.php?Page=868
Calculated for the 2006 College football season: http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?k...3zFzjzyA2MM0GA Quote:
“NFC North champion Chicago not only gave up the fewest points (202) in football last year, it topped the Bendability Index, too. The Bears forced opponents to march 134 yards to score the equivalent of a single touchdown. Chicago boasted more than a tough defense; they fielded a ferociously efficient defense.”
In addition, if we measure teams by the Bendability Index:
The top seven defenses made the playoffs.
9 playoff teams ranked in the Top 10 (and 10 in the Top 11).
The playoff teams ranked from No. 1 to No. 17 – the narrowest spread.
| Examination of Breakability index for College Football - and if it matters (it does - more so than pass efficiency defense, rush defense, total defense...basically everything other than scoring defense). http://doubleextrapoint.blogspot.com...ency-part.html
Combine my two points, gimmicky offense, high bendability index, and OU looks good. They won't give up that many yard when facing a normal offense. | |
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09-25-2007, 02:11 AM
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| That may all be true, but I wouldn't consider necessarily that other top teams have "normal" offenses either.
Take Florida - they sometimes do a relatively pass-heavy spread offense that, in my opinion, would pick apart OU's secondary much worse than Tulsa did, considering that Tim Tebow could take off at any moment.
(and again, Tulsa did put 21 points on the board, which would have been a competitive score if Oklahoma's offense hadn't steamrollered their defense and put up 3 times as much) | 
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09-25-2007, 07:41 AM
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| That game was never competitive. It 35-14 at half. You have the most ridiculous argument I've ever heard...
"well if OU had only scored 23 points, it would have been a close game" Well duh. It's ludicrous to say that would have been a competitive score if OU's offense wasn't so good.
Fine, I'll define normal as any team that usually takes more than 10-12 seconds to snap the ball after it's been spotted (maybe even being at risk for getting a delay of game penalty<gasp!>), allowing time for defensive substitution packages, defensive audibles and defensive players actually getting set at the line of scrimmage... | |
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09-25-2007, 02:41 PM
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09-27-2007, 10:08 AM
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09-28-2007, 02:26 PM
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#173 | | Junior Member
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| Looking forward to Syracuse vs Miami (OH) tomorrow to see if last week's win was a fluke or if Syracuse has genuinely improved since the first 3 embarassments. | |
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09-28-2007, 03:41 PM
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| Anyone else pumped/nervous for the Cal-Oregon game tomorrow? | |
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09-28-2007, 03:43 PM
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| ^ You bet man...But the team knows what's at stake. Tedford will have them prepared. | |
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09-28-2007, 07:06 PM
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| Yeah, I'm not entirely sure why so many peple are predicting an Oregon win...true, Follett and Ta'ufo'ou are out (which is pretty awful for us, considering that Zack would have provided much-needed pressure, and Will would helped tremendously against Oregon's weak (and small!) run D) and Dixon is much much better than last year.
That said, they haven't played a real top team yet (Michigan doesn't count IMO). I think Stewart is a little overrated, and Oregon hasn't seen a team with Cal's speed this season.
If Cal plays at its top level, or at least up to Oregon's level, I think we can pull out a decent win. | |
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09-28-2007, 07:26 PM
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| Games like the Oregon-UCB game are a win-win for fans of teams ranked lower than either team. If Oregon loses then BC will probably move up in ranking (assuming a win over 1-AA UMASS). | |
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09-29-2007, 12:04 AM
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#178 | | Junior Member
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| Like I said. Watch out for USF.
USF 21 WVU 13
That defense was INCREDIBLE!
Your turn will come RUTGERS.
Payback for last years fluke loss.
Go BEAST! | |
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09-29-2007, 02:56 AM
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| USF's skyrocketing program just shows how good the talent level of high school football players in the state of Florida really are. | |
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09-29-2007, 04:48 PM
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| I can't believe Oklahoma and West Virginia lost; now we just need Texas & Clemson to lose as well. Let's go Eagles! | |
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