College Football Discussion 07 - Page 21

jbusc · 10-20-2007, 01:42 AM

Notre Dame did that way back in 2005, and all it really accomplished them was leaving a USC player with a season-ending injury (though it did slow Reggie Bush a bit in the 1st half). This time, Pete Carroll isn't going to be caught off-guard by such tricks.

As for whether the "dynasty is over", I might remind people of 2003, when USC lost to unranked Cal and ended up 11-1 with a national championship, or last year, with USC losing to unranked Oregon State and UCLA and still coming out 11-2 with a Rose Bowl win. Or that Carroll is 20-1 against ranked teams since mid-2002. Or that he's never lost in the month of november. Those are still pretty impressive and haven't been broken yet.

So I still predict USC going at least 11-2, with at least a share of the pac-10 title and a BCS bid.

And assuming Ohio State and BC fall, and USC wins out, they should be #2 again - they have the toughest schedule of the one-loss teams left (except the eventual SEC champ)

UCBChemEGrad · 10-20-2007, 01:46 AM

^ So, what game are you predicting USC loses? Oregon, Cal? ... Notre Dame?

BTW, USC only plays 12 regular season games...so, you could be 10-2 or, at best 11-1, if USC wins out.

jbusc · 10-20-2007, 02:34 AM

I was including the post-season, so that's the case of USC going to the national championship game and losing, or of losing another regular season game (not speculating on who that would be) and winning their bowl game.

Besides, I still think USC has a shot at the championship. Everyone seems to have discounted that already, but when you consider that the offense that played against Arizona only includes about half of the players that started against Nebraska (QB Booty, RB Johnson, OT Rachal, OT Baker, C O'Dowd, and more all had to sit out due to injury) and that most of them will return by Oregon, there's a great chance for USC to win out the rest of their season.

UCBChemEGrad · 10-20-2007, 02:41 AM

^ My guess is USC loses to fUCLA, and saves Karl Dorrell for another season.

quirkily · 10-20-2007, 12:04 PM

Ehhh, I don't think USC has that much going for them. They haven't actually proved anything this season; their most impressive win, in retrospect, was over a really mediocre Nebraska team. No one really knows how good ASU is at this point, but I don't see USC winning out.
I'm envisioning an 8-1 tie in the Pac-10 between Oregon and Cal, with Cal going to the Rose Bowl on tiebreakers.

UCBChemEGrad · 10-21-2007, 03:50 PM

^ Not anymore...Cal needs to win out and get help from others to make the Rose Bowl at this point.

oscarjunk25 · 10-23-2007, 04:52 PM

USC TROJANS ALL THE WAY dont hate because we're good. we dont hate you. we just know we're better.

UCBChemEGrad · 10-23-2007, 04:57 PM

^ You joined back in March, and it took you 7 months to make a first post - a flame post at that... Congratulations, oscarjunk25.

We'll see how good you claim your condoms are when they face Oregon.

marge_sherwood · 10-23-2007, 06:09 PM

^^^ Eh... just saying, but California beat Oregon but Oregon State and UCLA beat Cal. So how hard is it really to beat Oregon? :P

A person on another messageboard figured out the whole mess here http://forums.somethingawful.com/sho...#post334931347

Quote:

USC lost to Stanford
Stanford lost to Oregon
Oregon lost to Cal
Cal lost to UCLA
UCLA lost to ND
ND lost to USC

And then the more inter-conference one:

Quote:

USC lost to Stanford
Stanford lost to TCU
TCU lost to Texas
Texas lost to Kansas St
Kansas St. lost to Auburn
Auburn lost to LSU
LSU lost to Kentucky
Kentucky lost to South Carolina
South Carolina lost to Vandy
Vandy lost to Bama
Bama lost to FSU
FSU lost to Wake Forest
Wake lost to Nebraska
Nebraska lost to USC

jbusc · 10-23-2007, 07:43 PM

The difference is that when it happens in the Pac-10, it's because the conference sucks and is overrated, when it happens in the SEC, it's because it's how deep the conference is.

(Which I admit that's sometimes not an invalid point (uhhhh...UCLA anyone?))

Strykur · 10-23-2007, 08:57 PM

Quote:

(Which I admit that's sometimes not an invalid point (uhhhh...UCLA anyone?))

It's not over until it's over. =/

jbusc · 10-23-2007, 11:38 PM

I think a lot of people in the Pac-10 will be rooting for USC to beat UCLA this year, just to avoid the embarrassment of the conference champion be the only team that lost to Notre Dame

UCBChemEGrad · 10-23-2007, 11:50 PM

^ LOL...so true. I think UCLA loses a couple more games though...Oregon and ASU come to mind.

Could you imagine if Cal won against OSU, Cal would be No. 1, and then lose to UCLA...Cal would be the laughingstock of college football as the most over-rated team...All because Notre Dame and Utah were able to beat UCLA this year.

Sly Si · 10-25-2007, 12:23 PM

^ I never root for USC, under any circumstances. Embarrassment my foot.

I was rooting for Cal to win the Pac-10, but I can't do that anymore because it would require them to win Big Game--and we can't have that, can we?

marge_sherwood · 10-25-2007, 10:15 PM

Man I really do not want to see BC in the national championship. Poor Hokies, in their own stadium.