InquisitiveOne

or is it possible for one to still do something white-collar with these? (i mean, work experience demands a resume doesn't it?)

rocketman08

It will be tough to start out with those stats... at least so far as the traditional 'white collar' jobs are concerned.

Bourne

I think this is what people mean by the term "understatement".

CollectivSynergy

1) Are you good-looking and
2) Are you charismatic?

As long as you can sneak into a good door, if you shine in the interview you'll be fine. #2 is more important than #1 in most cases.

apumic

Actually...good looking will generally trump personality characteristics (including charisma)...check the literature.

If you have no relevant experience and your GPA sucks, it will be very difficult to obtain your first job since there are so many people vying for the same position -- especially when one considers the state of the U.S. economy (assuming you are in the U.S.)

InquisitiveOne

so say you had a 2.0 GPA but finally managed to get high grades (and a recommendation on top of that) in say, your 4th and 5th years of college. Would that help things?

InquisitiveOne

==> you all know of stories of people who have ****ed themselves up in their 20s right? Is it usually positive feedback?

rocketman08

Not really... unless you pass the stats screening stages it's unlike you'll ever even get to really meet anyone in person that's in a position to boost up your application.

For a lot of top 'white collar' jobs the competition is so fierce that you won't really even start being evaluated face-to-face until perhaps the 2nd or 3rd round of the recruitment process (step one is usually a pure stats and CV screen and a 2.0 would almost always be the fast track to the trash bin) and then sometimes there's even a step two consisting of testing or other non-human interaction screening step.

chuy

You'll be fine as long as you know somebody that can get you an entry level job. It's all who you know. You'll start out on the bottom rung of the ladder but you can climb your way up.

Richard Rivera

You are far from screwed up for life! You can go to community college to get your GPA up and start with a minimum wage paying job and work your way up. Or you can go to a technical school for a year or two and start making some decent money.

Then again, I don't know how far you are into your 20s and you might be to the point that you don't care about going to school any more, and in that case, good luck.

chuy

If you've got a college diploma you shouldn't be working any minimum wage job. No, it won't pay that great and no, it won't be prestigeous, but you can find something livable.

kelseyg

Sheesh! The majority of Americans haven't even attended college - you're only "screwed for life" if you ended up with those stats because you have no work ethic.

4321234

maybe... if you keep working like that. and even if you get all 4.0s one year, even that probably won't be able to help you out all too much. the highest you can probably even get right now is 2.5 (considering you *might* get 4.0 all year). so... i say, if you're still in college, focus on networking and internships. or, go to technical school.

Northstarmom

Probably since the combination that you describe indicates that the person has no personality, no interests, and no work ethic either.

InquisitiveOne

Oh wow - so say, if you get a *single* connection who really trusts you (outside of family of course), can you quite possibly totally revolve yourself around?

(that combination can come out of things like getting addicted to WoW, or depression to the point that one literally can't get out of bed, etc. That, and American society tends to shun people like that, even if these people convincingly admit that they've managed to dig themselves out of such things). And freshman year mistakes are common, but sometimes people make catastrophic mistakes for several consecutive years.