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Old 07-09-2008, 08:51 PM   #16
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Yeah, but the doc isn't going to prescribe you 300 pills a week in order to keep the money coming in, you know?

Maybe he should just stick to coke.
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Old 07-09-2008, 09:22 PM   #17
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I felt that my state universities were not good enough and wanted a better education.
I go to a state school that is 1/8 of the cost of your school and have professors that taught at Stanford, lectured at Harvard, etc.

You know what their comment was about these "elite" schools. They say that everybody at all schools are taught the same subject, but the only difference is that at the "elite school,s" the professors have more research experience.

In essence, there is a really no difference between a state school and an "elite" school.
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Old 07-09-2008, 09:29 PM   #18
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Well put Insomnaic. Although I do think that name recognition and connections are extremely important, and are found in much higher abundance in the "elite" universities. So in this respect they are better.

And my last comment was a little rough, sorry about that. I simply felt that I wouldn't spend that much money on an education. But you are absolutely right, to each his own. And the parents paying for it isn't a bad bonus .
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Old 07-09-2008, 09:38 PM   #19
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If the parents are paying for it and can afford it, then it doesn't really matter. Being 180k in debt is a bit of a different story, lol.
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Old 07-09-2008, 09:39 PM   #20
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Well put Insomnaic. Although I do think that name recognition and connections are extremely important, and are found in much higher abundance in the "elite" universities. So in this respect they are better.

And my last comment was a little rough, sorry about that. I simply felt that I wouldn't spend that much money on an education. But you are absolutely right, to each his own. And the parents paying for it isn't a bad bonus.
I agree that connections are important, but I don't think there are necessarily in higher abundance in "elite" universities. There are connnections everywhere, you just have to find them.

Some people put in their mind that name recognition is important. I have heard presentations from a few interviewers at my state school. If a person from the "eltie" school didn't dress professionally and didn't communicate well, they wouldn't hire them just because they went to a elite school. A lot of times they even said that they didn't look at the names of the school the people attended, they just went by how well they present themselves during the interview.
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Old 07-09-2008, 09:43 PM   #21
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I don't think elite schools are that much different unless you are dealing with the TOP and dealing with i-banking or law. If you are pre-professional, or going into the workforce, most people don't care where you graduated from.. and truthfully, most don't know about the rankings of schools.
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Old 07-09-2008, 10:36 PM   #22
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Should parents pay for their children's education if they have the money available? To me, I wouldn't want my children taking out loans if I had the money. I wouldn't want them to have to pay back the money for the next 20 or so years. I would give out the money in a heartbeat.
Should parents pay for college if they have the money?

My parents are paying for it and I am not taking out loans. I simply asked what I could do to reduce the cost.

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You know what their comment was about these "elite" schools. They say that everybody at all schools are taught the same subject, but the only difference is that at the "elite school,s" the professors have more research experience.

In essence, there is a really no difference between a state school and an "elite" school.
I disagree, there are many differences. The caliber of the students is much higher at an elite university. You cannot say that the students at your state university can compete with the students at Harvard (unless you go to Berkeley, UCLA, etc...then maybe). Also, my state universities have upwards of 40,000-50,000 students. I wanted more attention and smaller class sizes.
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Old 07-09-2008, 10:37 PM   #23
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4orce, where are you going?
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Old 07-09-2008, 10:38 PM   #24
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You could try becoming an RA. There are usually great incentives such as free housing, free meals, free parking, etc.
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Old 07-09-2008, 10:42 PM   #25
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I disagree, there are many differences. The caliber of the students is much higher at an elite university. You cannot say that the students at your state university can compete with the students at Harvard (unless you go to Berkeley, UCLA, etc...then maybe). Also, my state universities have upwards of 40,000-50,000 students. I wanted a more personalized college experience.
I think that parents should pay for their children's education if they have the money, but not an $180,000 education.

My state college has 20,000 students.

Anybody can compete with anybody. Look at the Fresno State baseball team. They beat out all of the odds and won the College World Series.

Some students at my university can compete with students at Harvard.
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Old 07-09-2008, 10:42 PM   #26
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i found that i spent a lot less money if i took out a certain amount in cash from the ATM at the beginning of every week (usually like $30 because the ATMs on campus allowed you to withdraw in multiples of $10) and refrained from swiping my debit card because it was easier to keep track of my spending. also, if i didn't spend all the cash from one week, i'd have a little extra the next week, which was nice.
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Old 07-09-2008, 10:47 PM   #27
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LOL, you cannot compare sports to academics. We are talking about getting an education, not winning the CWS. And there are maybe a few at your university that can, are there 5000? No.
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Old 07-09-2008, 10:52 PM   #28
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4orce, the sports metaphor was actually not that bad. But where are you going to school?? I want to know now
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Old 07-09-2008, 10:52 PM   #29
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LOL, you cannot compare sports to academics. We are talking about getting an education, not winning the CWS. And there are maybe a few at your university that can, are there 5000? No.
How do you know? Can you supply some facts?

Like I said before, some of my professors at my state school have taught at Stanford, Harvard, etc. They said that all of the students at the "elite" schools and the state schools are the same, but the students at the "elite" schools just have more drive.

Therefore, anybody can compete with anybody. If you have the drive and determination, you can compete with anybody.

You can compare sports to academics. Did anybody think that Fresno State could compete with the "elite" schools? Probably very few people. They defied all odds and proved everybody wrong.
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Old 07-09-2008, 10:52 PM   #30
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You cannot say that the students at your state university can compete with the students at Harvard (unless you go to Berkeley, UCLA, etc...then maybe).
most students at my large state school had extremely impressive credentials in high school, and i really believe that the atmosphere at a large public university helps people to escape the ivory tower mentality and prepares them well for the real world--although, i definitely value diversity and understand that many people unfortunately don't..

plus, it's nice to be able to brag about our fabulous basketball team go heels!
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