4orce

Personal experience, other peoples experience, the internet/CC.

But thats the beauty of an opinion, I can say anything without proof. You're welcome to criticize and you are entitled to your own opinion. Do you have proof to everything you are saying? No.

insomniatic

What experience have you had to compare people who go to and graduated from state schools and "elite" schools?

insomniatic

I would like you to back up this statement: "You cannot say that the students at your state university can compete with the students at Harvard"

4orce

My personal experience wasn't necessarily linked to being able to do that. My personal experience comes from community college classes which I've taken. But regardless, an opinion is an opinion and you can't take that away from me.

4orce

Where do you go? I can pull up college entrance requirements, grad school data. Hey, it may be a poor way of judging but for the most part, its true. If you want facts, those are facts.

insomniatic

What does taking communtiy college classes have to do with you saying that "elite" college students are better than state school students?

insomniatic

I got to a state school where mostly everybody gets in.

Showing entrance requirements and grad school data does not prove that "elite" school students are better than state school students.

I would like to see the data of how the two groups of students compare after college.

4orce

Did you not read what I wrote. My personal experience wasn't necessarily linked to being able to do that. Grad school data is after college. If you can provide me with the means to collect direct data I would. But thats the best I can do. I am drawing opinions from the limited facts placed before me.

Off topic: I'm surprised more people haven't jumped in.

insomniatic

You are still in college if you are in grad school. I was talking about after college when you have a steady job.

Maybe because it's 3 A.M.

insomniatic

I understand you are making opinions, but I just want to know how you came up with those opinions. You haven't stated anything particular that made you come up to these conclusion that "elite" school students are smarter than state school students.

4orce

Oh sorry, I was referring to college as undergrad. Unfortunately, I cannot provide data for that.

If you want data for elite school students v. state school students in terms of smartness, look as far as entrance requirements. I believe that provides fairly reliable data to make these assumptions.

CC still gets a number of posts in the wee-hours. And with that I'm going to sleep. I really don't want to do this again tomorrow, look how much time we spent.

insomniatic

Like I said before, some students could qualify to get into an "elite" university, but they don't qualify for financial aid or can't afford spending $180,000 on an education.

Therefore, entrance requirements have nothing to do with it.

4orce

Last post, I promise. Then why is there a significant difference in the averages. If their were so many of these students, enough to significantly make a difference, the averages would be closer.