Adderall question! - Page 2

Russell7 · 12-04-2008, 06:00 PM

abuse: improper or excessive use

Both improper and excessive are subjective, therefore, abuse is subjective. You think that if I don't have ADD, that it's excessive; but I don't.

No one cares if you reprimand them for taking the easy way out. The easy way is the only smart way. And that is also subjective.

willmingtonwave · 12-04-2008, 06:02 PM

How is it not considered "improper use" when you take a prescription drug that you are not proscribed to take? It is pointless arguing on a message board anyway--nothing will be accomplished.

Russell7 · 12-04-2008, 06:05 PM

Because we have our own considerations. The government deems it necessary for one to have a prescription to take adderall. That isn't my belief, so in no way do I see it as improper. You're again treating improper like an objective term, which it isn't.

leah377 · 12-04-2008, 06:17 PM

but also you have to consider that adderall doesn't write papers for you. it doesn't study for your exams for you. it'll help you concentrate for a few hours to you can maximize your time better. i don't really see the problem with using it twice a year the night before a big test.

i think people run into problems when they start to use adderall all the time for day-to-day academic functions (pay attention in class throughout the day, do assigned readings in the evening, etc.).

Knights09 · 12-04-2008, 06:23 PM

Sorry I have a medical condition and take medicine so I can succeed better. Apparently I'm cheating. Should I let colleges know!?!?!?!?!

willmingtonwave · 12-04-2008, 06:27 PM

FWIW, I don't have anything against people using it if they ARE PRESCRIBED it. And Leah377, I can see your point. I just think that generally people start falling into the cycle of overusing it.

Weskid · 12-04-2008, 06:33 PM

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but also you have to consider that adderall doesn't write papers for you. it doesn't study for your exams for you. it'll help you concentrate for a few hours to you can maximize your time better.

Here's the thing. Being able to concentrate better? A BIG advantage, esp. on tests or during exam periods when everyone has a ton to study. So, if you take adderall without a prescription, you are getting an advantage over people who don't, and since what you're doing is illigal, I don't think that's fair. I'd love to be able to concentrate better when studying, but I'm not going to break the law to do it, and I don't like that other students ARE. (This esp. matters when a test is graded on a curve).

Russell7 · 12-04-2008, 06:36 PM

Laws are just constructions. Unless you're directly harming someone, who really cares unless you're caught? The other people on the curve, but so what? Go ahead and call it cheating; but if you ain't cheating, you ain't trying hard enough. Being smarter is an unfair advantage. What did he do to deserve being a genius?

Another thing. Concentration isn't easily divided into people who have ADD and people who don't. There's a spectrum of concentration ability and the dichotomy that people make isn't really accurate.

Shrinkrap · 12-04-2008, 07:00 PM

In addition to risking your own health but taking a prescription drug without benefit of evaluation and management by a doctor, you are potentialy making the prescribing doctor liabel for prescribing without an exam, or the person who gave it to you liable for distributing without a license.

phade · 12-04-2008, 07:28 PM

Russell will find out the error of his ways when he is forced to do something without his drugs, until then go right ahead, as you say you're not harming anyone but yourself.

Russell7 · 12-04-2008, 07:35 PM

Yeah, I've never done anything requiring concentration without using drugs. How stupid can you people be? I've only used it once, for the record.

And actually, I never mentioned that I was harming myself. I said that I was benefiting myself.

phade · 12-04-2008, 07:40 PM

Using a drug as a crutch is harming yourself, sorry I don't live in a dream world like you seem to.

Russell7 · 12-04-2008, 07:43 PM

I'm using it as a performance enhancer. Using it as a crutch would be using it daily, maybe weekly; not a few times per year. You're the one who's detached from reality.

phade · 12-04-2008, 07:48 PM

Exactly you're using it to artificially enhance your performance rather than learning/adapting on your own to handle the stress and do well. Doing this just deprives you of the opportunity to better yourself and, as I mentioned before, there will come a time when you are forced to rely only on your own abilities and you will fail because in the past you have taken the easy way out rather than doing what is necessary to prepare yourself. Anyway, as I have said before, continue to do so, you are only harming yourself in the long run.

lindz126 · 12-04-2008, 07:54 PM

did you guys see Boston Legal Monday evening?