Russell7

Thanks for the tip, phade, but I'm not going to accept advice from a. As I've said, I've used adderall once in my life and only plan to use it a few times a year during finals. I get enough "preparation" in the 99% of days that I don't plan to use it. Are you saying that people who don't even write finals are ill prepared for the big bad world? Give me a break; you're such a , it's unbelievable. Millions of students use coffee to "artifically enhance" their performance, rather than learning and adapting on their own. I better myself in enough ways and I'm not self-righteous enough to care that I've taken the "easy way out."

Just to note, I'm studying for my mechanics final at the moment without the aid of adderall. But I'm using caffeine, an artificial enhancer, so I guess I'm screwed.

willmingtonwave

+1
But at the same time I don't really care what other people do with their bodies. However it does **** me off when I work harder and someone else does better because they can study for 48 hours straight. But in the long run I am able to prioritize things more effectively and not procrastinate.

phade

Since you are clearly unable to have a mature discussion I'll leave you with one final piece of advice before abandoning this thread: wake up and learn to take constructive criticism instead of rationalizing your behavior and lying to yourself, its going to come back and bite you in the ass.

Russell7

I'm above you; it wouldn't even be logical for me to take your criticism seriously.

Rationalization takes place during every decision that we make, so telling me to stop rationalizing is pretty dumb.

Are you psychic, phade? You seem to know more about my life than I do. Like I said, your advice is useless.

Russell7

You know what, now I feel guilty. I apologize for rude remarks. I just get irritated when people impose their beliefs on others.

apumic

hahahahaha... I'm definitely submitting this to collegehumor's "stupid things students say"....

leah377

if you don't like the idea of adderall, don't use it.
if you don't like the idea of premarital sex, don't do it.
if you don't like cottage cheese, don't eat it.

it's uneccessary to condemn someone for making a relatively harmless choice. yes, it's technically illegal to use adderall if it's not prescribed to you, but i don't really understand why anyone on an internet forum cares if someone thousands of miles away does. take it up with your roommate if he's stockpiling ADHD meds in your common areas and selling them to all your hallmates, but if the issue doesn't affect you, why bother?

also, if you counter that it's an unfair advantage academically, perhaps you should consider taking advantage of it, too, like millions upon millions of americans who are not prescribed (or are overprescribed) these types of medications.

i do think that it's a personal problem when you begin relying on ADHD drugs to succeed in school, but using them infrequently is no big deal.

Russell7

Oh, I get it, you're implying that I'm stupid. You got me here!

You're a chump.

apumic

leah, it's a public health issue. psych meds, including adderall and other stimulants, are very powerful drugs with long-lasting effects that can result in a variety of negative and positive, life-long symptoms. if a student is struggling with concentration issues, it would be advisable for him or her to seek out the help of a professional psychologist or psychiatrist. If the problem is not major enough to pay for such services, then it is not major enough to merit taking mind-altering drugs. (public health issues do matter to us on a national level seeing as they cost taxpayers a huge amount of money each year)

Russell7

You're missing the point, apumic. Why should people like me, or leah, care about it being a public health issue? That's given the hypothetical situation that it is. I haven't read anything about adderall having permanent side effects. Maybe in adolescents, which I'm not.

I don't care if you think that my decision has merit. Like I've been saying in this thread, all of these value claims that you guys are making are subjective. I don't share them, so I don't care about them. And in the end, it's my choice to take it.

Shrinkrap

It does affect medical and mental health professionals who get near paranoid about the spectre drug diversion, instead of the needs of individual patients. This in turn, affects the cost of health care to everone.

FWIW

Assessing the Safety of ADHD Medications
An Expert Panel Considers the Clinical Significance of Potential Adverse Effects

http://www.medicalcrossfire.com/onli...me/05_adhd.pdf

Russell7

Again, why should I care?

Shrinkrap

I hope you never have to.

ticklemepink

I get that also. It's a question of using your time efficiently. It's okay to stop and daydream every now and then during the 3 hour exam- your brain just cannot simply work that hard for so long and straight. Just force yourself to say "Okay, I am going to write a few sentence or a paragraph, and then take a break." But you might find yourself able to keep writing.

It also may be that you're just NOT interested in the subject. I tend to doze off much more often (and other students in similar position too) where someone's talking about something that has no relation to my interests or research.

thats WUt i said

provigil is the future