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09-21-2009, 04:01 PM
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#106 | | Junior Member
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Rjkofnovi, As a Jew who went to a Jewish day school for high school, I completely disagree with you. In fact, the vast majority of my fellow students, self-included, are not Orthodox Jews. We have a good mix of Orthodox, Conservative, Reform, and undecided/unaffiliated Jews.
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09-21-2009, 04:02 PM
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#107 | | Senior Member
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My ignorance? Please enlighten me?
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09-21-2009, 04:05 PM
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#108 | | Member
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All jews agree that a jew is someone who practices Judaism in accordance with orthodox law. It's not that complicated.
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09-21-2009, 04:08 PM
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#109 | | Senior Member
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Rjkofnovi, As a Jew who went to a Jewish day school for high school, I completely disagree with you. In fact, the vast majority of my fellow students, self-included, are not Orthodox Jews. We have a good mix of Orthodox, Conservative, Reform, and
undecided/unaffiliated Jews.
Then you should know exactly what I'm saying. The orthodox only consider a person born of a jewish mother to be a jew, unless there is a formal conversion by an orthodox rabbi in the proper manner. My statement was that if you're considered a jew by the orthodox, all other branches would also consider you a jew. For example, if your father is jewish and your mother is not, the orthodox will not consider you a jew under any circmunstance unless you are formally converted by an orthodox rabbi(s). To the reform jew, only one parent needs to be jewish. Furthermore, even if you are born of a jewish mother, if you start to practice another religion, according to orthodoxy, you are no longer considered a jew either. That's why I made that statement earlier, it includes even the most radical fringe of the religion. That's all I'm saying and I hope this clarifies my position.
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09-21-2009, 09:51 PM
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#110 | | Junior Member
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Oh, my mistake. I thought you tried to say that non-Orthodox Jews are not really Jews.
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09-21-2009, 10:20 PM
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#111 | | Senior Member
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"@spark, I know that's why in my previous post I said no one even know what a "jew" is. I think the reason people think of themselves as jews is because of all the discrimination they suffered, you know the same way a group of kids would join together if they were threathen at school"
My response was based on the above paragraph by a person who is not jewish and was in need of some kind of rebuttal to a silly statement.
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09-22-2009, 07:10 AM
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Rjkofnovi, a jew can mean many things, for example in israel a person who can prove his lineage to a jewish grandmother is a jew, whether he practices Judaism or not. Technically jews are an ethinc-religios group.
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09-22-2009, 08:11 AM
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#113 | | Senior Member
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A lot of total, total nonsense in this thread right now. I suggest everyone involved stop talking because you're all making yourselves look bad and walking the line of offenses that may be ban-worthy.
FWIW, rjk, Talmud says essentially that there's no such thing as no longer being Jewish once you're Jewish. In fact, when Jewish text refers to people who are "converted", it refers not to people who "converted into" Judaism, those are simply Jews, but rather, those who have "converted out" of Judaism. As a community, if you follow Talmud, the Jewish people never drop the affiliation one has with Judaism, you become a converted Jew, not something else.
Now everyone else would do their best to stop talking eugenics.
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09-22-2009, 11:05 AM
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^^^^You are right, I stand corrected.
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09-22-2009, 01:01 PM
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#115 | | Junior Member
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Would it be possible to get back on topic and discuss colleges that might appeal to Jewish students? For example, I am looking for a mid-size (2500 - 10,000) student school for a B+/A- type student in the PA, MD, VA, NC, SC region. Not sure of his intended major - maybe business. So far, considering Muhlenberg and College of Charleston. Elon is also a possibility - not as many Jewish students, but it seems comfortable. We are reform - so not looking for Kosher food or anything of that sort, but do want to avoid schools that might be too conservative or Christian. For example, High Point was suggested, but upon reading threads on CC and looking more closely at the website, my perception is that there are very few Jewish students there. Same with Roanoke. Any suggestions?
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09-22-2009, 01:16 PM
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My youngest son is in the business school at American university in DC and so far he is very happy there. Kogod School of Business is very strong, and my son likes that it is very easy to major both in business and in any other major as well. A very large number of Jewish students. Lots and lots of opportunities of all kinds.
if you are willing to look a lot farther away, my middle son goes to the University of Denver....very strong business program as well, and the school is about 25% Jewish. There are about 5000 undergrad students at the University of Denver.
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