fliqer

No brainer full ride at NYU

beyphy

NYU. Perhaps this is just a west-coast bias, but i've never found Dartmouth to be that prestigious. And frankly, to be honest, it's probably no more prestigious than NYU is, despite is being an ivy. And it's in the middle of NOWHERE(yes i'm aware that many other ivies are as well, e.g. Yale; but unlike yale, it lacks its prestige.)

Go to NYU, and enjoy a fun and vibrant life in NYC.

slipper1234

beyphy - it would appear you don't know much about Dartmouth. Dartmouth's placement into business jobs is among the top 5 in the nation and its placement into top grad schools has historically been ranked in the top 7. Its most usually right behind HYP among the Ivies in these two categories. It has the 2nd or 3rd most loyal alumni in the nation. Its loaded with grants and the study abroad is ranked #1 or #2 every year. Just because you don't know much about it doesn't mean it doesn't do exceptionally well at what matters. For example:

WSJ Ranking of feeder schools to elite Law, Business and Med Schools:

1) Harvard
2) Yale
3) Princeton
4) Stanford
5) Williams
6) Duke
7) Dartmouth
8) MIT
9) Amherst
10) Swarthmore
11) Columbia
12) Brown
13) Pomona
14) Chicago
15) Wellesley
16) Penn
17) Georgetown
18) Haverford
19) Bowdoin
20) Rice
21) Northwestern
22) Claremont McKenna
23) Middlebury
24) Johns Hopins
25) Cornell
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And Yale isn't in the middle of nowhere. And on a side note many/ most would argue NYU has a major lack of a campus environment, which can make the experience a little lonely.

beyphy

And despite being nearly 250 years old, it's only graduated 3 Nobel prize winners. It's rankings are also fairly unimpressive. (save USnews)

all that list shows is that Dartmouth has a competitive student body. (i never denied that) but that doesn't prove that its one of the top feeders due to its prestige.

I've been to New Haven, and my brother goes to Yale; it's in the middle of nowhere.

goldenboy8784

What does Nobel Prize production have to do with anything? Dartmouth is a much stronger school at the undegraduate level. That being said, its hard to justify that kind of debt unless your parents make at least 300K a year. NYU is still a top university. If you strongly prefer Dartmouth and your parents can afford it, I would say to go there. If not, make the most out of your NYU experience.

askjeeves

Dartmouth is amazing. But NYU Econ is also a top program.

Save the money and go to New York.

beyphy

Uh...prestige, which i was making a comment about. I'm also not sure to what degree being the "stronger school at the undergraduate level" really accounts for. Dartmouth may feed more students into top programs, but i imagine that their students are also quite a bit more competitive. (the same being true for the students in other top LACs) And this, rather than its undergraduate education, might easily account for the success of Dartmouth students.

LilyEmery

Simply, I don't think Dartmouth is worth 200k more than NYU.

Consolation

This is the FIRST time I've seen a thread in which NYU features as the cheaper option.

goldenboy8784

That's an obscure statistic that has nothing to do with prestige of a university, at least at the undergraduate level. Most people win Nobel Prizes like 50 years after they graduate from undergrad and thus a number of other factors including graduate school, luck, personal drive, etc. are more related to Rhodes Scholar production. It's like giving my elementary school credit for the fact that I'm going to Harvard Law School next year. Obviously, a lot of things that happened to me in the 15 years between my elementary schooling and my acceptance to HLS.

No, not really, there are probably 3-4 times as many 2200+ scorers on the SAT at UCLA rather than at Dartmouth but the WSJ Feeder Ranking shows that despite the preponderance of high scorers at UCLA, Dartmouth grads are still represented more at even an absolute number than UCLA alums at the top 5 law schools, medical schools, and business schools.

NYU is simply not in the same league as Dartmouth at the undergraduate level. It is an overpriced private school with a few standout programs, an excellent business school, and a world renowned school of the arts and theater.

beyphy

Okay, point taken.

So UCLA students score higher than Dartmouth kids but they're still more represented? sounds like evidences some Ivy bias to me. (which we both know is well documented.)

quesadilla

Still curious how Yale is in the middle of nowhere... New Haven has a population of 130k. If that is considered middle of nowhere, what do you call my hometown of 10k?

RML

Someone here mentioned Dartmouth as a more prestigious school name than NYU is. Really? I thought NYU is more prestigious than Dartmouth as a whole. Half the people in Texas that I have asked haven't heard of Dartmouth but heard of NYU, lol...

sefago

^ but if they had an educated knowledge of dartmouth and also NYU they will consider dartmouth more prestigious.

RML

^ That's the problem. In the real world, the world outside of CC, Dartmouth is somewhat unheard of and NYU is somewhat popular.

That said, I would - personally - go for Dartmouth, not because I belong to the educated class, but because I prefer a campus-based school to a school that only has buildings scattered across many blocks.