arvindch

I recently read about something called OutofState waivers that public colleges offer to such applicants. Which colleges offer this?

mom2collegekids

Are you talking about schools that give either OOS waivers or large scholarships to high stats students so that the cost is similar (or lower) than the instate rate? Some state schools do have these waivers, and some are legally prohibited from offering them, so they give merit scholarships instead.

What is it that you want? What is your budget?

Are you an American? If not, then many of these offers won't apply to you. However, some will.

ucbalumnus

University of Minnesota Morris does not charge additional tuition to non-residents. But that is rare.

However, a few public universities are low price even at out of state list price (e.g. those in the Dakotas).

arvindch

Hi!

@mom2collegekids -
Yeah, I'm international - should've mentioned that. So, which college have this or the merit scholarships for internationals?

My budget is COA 16k$ per yr.

@ucbalumnus -
Which of such colleges have reasonable recognition and offer good CS and/or engineering programs?

Also, what are the types of colleges? - LACs offer almost everything most of the time, but what about normal colleges(such a thing?) and tech schools?

Thanks!

annasdad

You mentioned engineering, and very few LACs offer engineering - there are a few, but not many.

I would think your best bet, if you have reasonably high stats, would be to cast a wide net among less-selective private universities that have engineering programs and are known for generous merit aid - or, as ucbalumnus says, perhaps some of the lowest-cost state schools like the University of North Dakota. As long as your school's engineering program is ABET-certified, you don't really gain anything from more prestige.

mom2collegekids

What are your stats?

Alabama is one of the few schools with ABET accredited engineering that give large merit scholarships to int'ls that have the required stats. You must apply early and get accepted by Dec 1st...that's req'd for int'ls.

The apps go online in July. You should apply then and get all your int'l paperwork in ASAP.

So, as an engineering major, if you have a 3.5+ GPA....AND either a 1400+ M+CR SAT or a 32+ ACT, then you'd get free tuition plus 2500 per year. So, your family contribution of $16k per year would cover the rest of your expenses. (Actually, as an eng'g major, you'd get the same value of scholarships with an ACT 30+ or SAT 1330+ - because the Col of Eng'g kicks in the difference.)

Few schools with ABET eng'g are going to only cost you $16k per year (COA for int'ls).

noimagination

South Dakota State University has a pretty good EECS department and I believe the rack-rate COA is somewhere around $16k.

DrGoogle

m2ck, is there an essay or LORs to apply online?

mom2collegekids

no. no essays, no LORs.....very easy apps Must do both the school app and the scholarship app. But, the scholarship app is done a couple of days after the school app.

arvindch

@mom2collegekids -

I have a 3.8 GPA and a 2170 SAT 1.

I don't understand what you mean...?

Of course, Ivies would be the best bet, however, admission is infinitely harder. Right?

@noimagination-

I'll check that out. Thanks!

mom2collegekids

@mom2collegekids -

I have a 3.8 GPA and a 2170 SAT 1.

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Actually, as an eng'g major, you'd get the same value of scholarships with an ACT 30+ or SAT 1330+ - because the Col of Eng'g kicks in the difference.
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I don't understand what you mean...?


What I meant is that an engineering student with a 1330 M+CR SAT would end up with Full Tuition plus $2500 as well because the Col of Eng'g gives an additional scholarship.



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Few schools with ABET eng'g are going to only cost you $16k per year (COA for int'ls).
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Of course, Ivies would be the best bet, however, admission is infinitely harder. Right?


Yes, admission is very difficult, especially for int'ls. And who knows how much an ivy would expect you to pay.

arvindch

@mom2collegekids -

Ok.

Also, how much would a set of really good essays help ivy admission, if I haven't won numerous National competitions, but have done a lot of stuff otherwise? What are some aspects of my app that really matter for ivy admissions - stuff I should strengthen.

And, they can't expect you to pay more than family income right? - which is around 20k$.
Most aid package samples indicate 20% of family income as expected contribution, and 15k$ is 75$%. Of course, some of this may come from loans ( if necessary ). Any ideas?

mom2collegekids

And, they can't expect you to pay more than family income right? - which is around 20k$.


How can your family pay $16k per year for college if their income is $20k???

arvindch

We have some money already ( lived in USA for 7yrs - not alot though) and we can sell a plot of land, if necessary.

What about -
Also, how much would a set of really good essays help ivy admission, if I haven't won numerous National competitions, but have done a lot of stuff otherwise? What are some aspects of my app that really matter for ivy admissions - stuff I should strengthen.

ucbalumnus

Following up on the above comments:

South Dakota State University:
Cost Estimate
Accredited Programs details

University of Alabama:
Scholarships - Undergraduate Students - The College of Engineering - The University of Alabama (ask them directly about whether international students are eligible; if you get the full tuition + $2,500 per year, remaining cost of attendance is probably around $12,000 per year)
Accredited Programs details

You may also want to ask University of Alabama Huntsville if their Silver (full tuition for GPA 3.0 and SAT CR+M 1360) and Blue (full ride for GPA 3.0 and SAT CR+M 1490) scholarships are available to international students.
UAHuntsville - Entering Freshmen
Accredited Programs details