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06-16-2012, 08:33 PM
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Barrons, its time to give up your charade. Wisconsin and Texas will never be as prestigious as Mr. Jefferson's university.
| I don't know if i'd say 'never' but Virginia probably has a strong lead over Wisconsin, and to a lesser extent Texas.
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06-16-2012, 10:35 PM
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Where did Texas come from, beyphy?
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06-16-2012, 11:12 PM
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According to wikipedia: Quote: |
During the Spanish colonial rule, the area was officially known as the Nuevo Reino de Filipinas: La Provincia de Texas.[11] Antonio Margil de Jesús was known to be the first person to use the name in a letter to the Viceroy of Mexico in July 20, 1716. The name was not popularly used in daily speech but often appeared in legal documents until the end of the 1800s.
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06-16-2012, 11:19 PM
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You misquoted...Texas was never mentioned in the original quote.
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06-17-2012, 12:16 AM
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That's the weirdest thing. I'm looking at the post on my phone and Texas is not there. When I look at it on my main computer, Texas is mentioned. Strange.
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06-17-2012, 12:23 AM
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Barrons, its time to give up your charade. Wisconsin will never be as prestigious as Mr. Jefferson's university. The former is seen as run of the mill state schools while the latter is blue-blooded elite institutions which occupies a high status in American society.
| That's the quote on my phone...must have been edited and not picked up. Even your link to the post when I pull it up on my phone doesn't mention Texas.
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06-17-2012, 12:50 AM
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That is weird. I initially thought you were being sarcastic, so i responded in a like manner  | |
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06-17-2012, 06:43 AM
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Not weird at all. It appears the statement was altered after it's initial posting. UCB caught it before goldenboy make it even more obnoxious. Happens all the time.
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06-17-2012, 01:00 PM
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Prestigious where--among northeast snob wannaes or among the major academic institutions in the world? In the academic world UVa can't carry UW's jock. It is barely an afterthought. The real public academic powers. See page 5. http://oirap.rutgers.edu/reports/MSA...6pp126-131.pdf
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06-17-2012, 03:07 PM
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Uva is the Potemkin Village of universities. Most of the schools it claims as its peers have ACTUAL academic chops to go along with good student stats. Sullivan saw that cleary.
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06-17-2012, 03:32 PM
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^^^Well, Sullivan was the provost at The University of Michigan. I suppose she knew how UVA stacked up against it's peers and the BOV didn't want to deal with it on her terms.
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06-17-2012, 03:48 PM
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<Clearly> she saw that and the costs to reach the level of real academic power are more than the fast buck guys and handle as it takes a real commitment to doing what Sullivan wanted to do--hire young people with good prospects and develop/nurture them over a 10 year period. They alredy tried the fast buck approach of hiring some science "stars" under Casteen and found that they wanted things money cannot readily buy and most decided to stay where they were.
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06-17-2012, 05:08 PM
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Barrons, you're really grasping at straws here. According to the link you provided, UC San Diego has 20 more NAS members than Wisconsin which has 20 more NAS members than U of Michigan.
I guess by your logic, U of Michigan can't really hold UCSD's jockstrap either!  Face it, the strength of the faculty after Harvard and Stanford don't really match up with the actual reputation of universities held my most Americans which is what is relevant for most Americans.
Suggesting that an 18 year old choose UCSD over Georgetown or Dartmouth just because the former has exponentially more members elected into the National Academy of Arts & Sciences is ludicrous.
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06-17-2012, 06:08 PM
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If an 18 YO wants to study any science they are likely better served at UCSD than Gtown or Dartmouth. San Diego is a key area in biosciences and UCSD is at the heart of that.
BTW most Americans are ill-informed on most things academic.
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