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06-14-2012, 02:36 AM
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| UVa President was fired for telling the truth
"Sullivan’s Academic Strategy memo, obtained by The Washington Post, was written in comparatively candid terms and identified five areas of broad concern.
First, a siloed budgeting model that frustrates innovation and collaboration. Second, a projection that fully half of the U-Va. faculty will depart by 2020, mainly because of retirement. <Third, a “reputation gap”: In many academic areas, Sullivan suggests, the university is “reputed to be better than we actually are.” Fourth, the “fragile” Top 10 stature of many university departments and professional schools, driven by a precariously small number of actual academic stars>."
UVa was/is overrated. U-Va. board: President Teresa Sullivan’s removal came after an “extended” talk over school’s health - The Washington Post |
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06-14-2012, 05:49 AM
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UVa is just in an untenable position of being a great state university striving to become a top private one.
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06-14-2012, 10:23 AM
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| Barrons, this is like kicking 'em when they're down...
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06-14-2012, 02:55 PM
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UVa is just in an untenable position of being a great state university striving to become a top private one.
| I wonder how you came to this conclusion from reading the article.
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06-14-2012, 03:19 PM
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Barrons is not that "off" with his comments regarding UVA.
Of course, the motive is not that opaque. Two numbers come to mind, namely 25 and 42. Borrowing from RML's favorite passtime, seizing every opportunity to "kick" a school that happens to better liked by Morse and his goons is part of the game one likes to play.
/yawn
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06-14-2012, 03:45 PM
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^ xiggi, we can always count on your insight.
/yawn
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06-14-2012, 04:43 PM
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Glad you noticed!
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06-16-2012, 02:33 AM
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| The New World Order along with UNC.. sorry.. >.<" TOSU, Michigan, UCB, UCLA, Texas, Wisconsin, Washington and Illinois are all "true" Public Ivies with solid academic programs across-the-board in depth and breadth imho. The Public Ivies of 2020
1. UCB (PAC-12)
2. UCLA (PAC-12)
2. Michigan (B1G)
3. tOSU (B1G) - 300 new tenure-track faculties by 2020. Budget: $300+ million 
3. Wisconsin (B1G)
3. Illinois (B1G)
3. Texas (BIG-XII)
3. Washington (PAC-12)
4 B1G, 3 PAC-12 & 1 BIG-XII (8 schools total)
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06-16-2012, 12:03 PM
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This thread would appear to just be a bunch of supporters of other schools (mostly Big Ten schools with strong graduate and research programs but very low selectivity and poor undergraduate focus) jumping at the opportunity to attack a school that is, at least by the general public, seen as far more prestigious. Stay classy.
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06-16-2012, 02:56 PM
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Barrons, its time to give up your charade. Wisconsin will never be as prestigious as Mr. Jefferson's university. The former is seen as run of the mill state schools while the latter is a blue-blooded elite institutions which occupies a high status in American society.
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06-16-2012, 03:03 PM
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The UC system will have collapsed by 2020, no?
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06-16-2012, 07:43 PM
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Only to little wannabe snobs.
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06-16-2012, 07:57 PM
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"The former are seen as run of the mill state schools while the latter is a blue-blooded elite institutions which occupies a high status in American society."
This is a really obnoxious comment. And sorry, but outside of VA and maybe a swath of the northeast few people have any impression of its universities at all. The last thing I heard about UVA was the story of the lacrosse player who killed his girlfriend. The last thing I heard about Virginia Tech was the horrible mass murder a few years ago. You vastly overestimate the "high status in American society" that you believe UVA holds.
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06-16-2012, 07:59 PM
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The UC system will have collapsed by 2020, no?
| Not a chance. Some local VC's will do a reverse transaction and take Cal and UCLA private before that happens. |
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