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07-09-2012, 12:22 PM
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^well, if you watch the aforementioned Yale video, their lives look pretty awesome.  Not really the social life, but the amenities haha!! People at Yale say it's like living in a castle!! I mean, the social life wouldn't much different...
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07-09-2012, 12:26 PM
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Awesome?
It's marketing. And pretty goofy, at that. I actually looked up to see if it was a spoof.
Now I know you're kidding.
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07-09-2012, 03:00 PM
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^At first I thought it was tongue-in-cheek too... could've been an SNL skit.
and OP, get real. Yale is not some magical palace where everyone is beautiful and kind, including the two maidens constantly attending you and your personal Cornell student. It, like every other school, has its shortcomings. The whole thing couldn't be more staged too. I don't really know what to tell you besides the fact that it's kind of ridiculous and a waste of time to fawn over and fantasize about what you can't have. Especially if what you have is already perfectly fine. Grass always looks greener on the other side.
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07-09-2012, 03:12 PM
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^ of course it does!!
A person can dream, gosh. And Beloit sends kids to Yale, you know.
I still like the video.
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07-09-2012, 03:16 PM
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@rbouwens: Beloit is a wonderful college!  | |
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07-09-2012, 06:23 PM
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You see my obsession haha? ^
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07-09-2012, 09:33 PM
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The Ivy League is just an athletic conference. There are probably 50 top schools in the country, 8 of which are in the northeast and play sports against each other. Anything beyond that is just marketing.
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07-09-2012, 10:30 PM
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swish14, can you elaborate?
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07-10-2012, 01:09 AM
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rbouwens, what swish means is that there are many Ivy League peer institutions in terms of academic excellence, intellectual intensity, reputation, resources etc... I would conservatively estimate that there are at least 10 LACs (Amherst, Bowdoin, Carleton, Claremont McKenna, Davidson, Haverford, Middlebury, Swarthmore, Wesleyan and Williams to name a few), 10 private research universities (Chicago, Duke, Georgetown, Johns Hopkins, MIT, Northwestern, Rice, Stanford, Vanderbilt, WUSTL to name a few) and 5 public universities (Cal, Michigan, UCLA, UNC, UVa to name a few) that are in the same "league" as the Ivy League. Some of them may be better then some Ivies (MIT and Stanford are arguably slightly better than non-HYP Ivies) while others may be a notch below the Ivies, but overall, those universities are all excellent.
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07-10-2012, 08:38 AM
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>>The Ivy League is just an athletic conference.<<
Technically yes, but since the term "Ivy League" was in common usage in the US for at least several decades prior to the formation of the athletic league it's clear that the term has a wider meaning in US culture beyond college athletics.
But I certainly do agree with the point that there are many schools beyond the eight Ivy schools where one can get a wonderful education. The Ivy schools may be great, but as was said above, they are still just colleges and not subdivisions of Heaven nor versions of the Garden of Eden. Ivy students have more or less all the same challenges and hassles that college kids everywhere have to deal with.
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07-10-2012, 01:15 PM
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"subdivisions of Heaven." I love it haha.
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07-10-2012, 01:32 PM
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Yes, but that is not New Heaven!
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07-10-2012, 01:44 PM
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I can totally relate.
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07-10-2012, 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by rbouwens This nonsense aside, I love my school. I've been chatting with the students in my class on Facebook and we seem to get a lot of traffic on our page - one thread started over 300 comments! We have a LOT of pride for our school and its students. They're so down-to-earth and they all seem like the coolest kids. | A little obsessing about the hallowed ivy covered halls is ok, as long as it doesn't detract from you enjoying and making of the most of the experience/school you actually are attending. Because in that case you have neither - not Yale, and not Beloit. Which is just sad when you consider how fortunate you are relative to most of the rest of the 7 billion persons on the planet...
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07-10-2012, 04:52 PM
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^ Yeah, that makes sense. I just think that maybe "education" is where I'm supposed to be. Maybe I'll work for a uni some day or something....I mean, if I'm THAT obsessed haha....
I mean, I just love the whole idea of college an what comes out of it. In general, colleges fascinate me. That's why researching them is fun haha.
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