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Top Schools for Undergraduate Chemistry

Going The DistanceGoing The Distance Posts: 312User Awaiting Email Confirmation Member
edited April 2011 in College Search & Selection
Are there any rankings on this?

Thanks.
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  • alwaysfaithfulalwaysfaithful Posts: 688Registered User Member
    UIUC comes to my mind,
  • AlexandreAlexandre Posts: 21,659Super Moderator Senior Member
    California Institute of Technology
    Columbia University
    Cornell University
    Harvard University
    Massachusetts Institute of Technology
    Northwestern University
    Princeton University
    Stanford University
    University of Caifornia-Berkeley
    University of California-Los Angeles
    University of Chicago
    University of Illinois-Urbana Champaign
    University of Michigan-Ann Arbor
    University of North Carolina-Chapel Hill
    University of Texas-Austin
    University of Wisconsin-Madison
    Yale University

    Remind me to give you a list of top LACs for Chemistry.
  • AwakienAwakien Posts: 234Registered User Junior Member
    hmm...not so much URochester huh? =(

    Probably Oberlin College for LAC strong in Sciences
  • warblersrulewarblersrule Posts: 8,552Super Moderator Senior Member
    Harvey Mudd, Wabash, Reed, Carleton, Bowdoin, Grinnell, Haverford, Franklin and Marshall, College of Wooster, Bryn Mawr, Allegheny, Knox, Occidental, Bates, Juniata, Kalamazoo, Williams, Swarthmore, Oberlin, Andrews, Holy Cross, St. Olaf, Hendrix, Hope, Davidson, Ursinus, Kenyon, Macalester, Centre, Wellesley, Wheaton, Trinity U, Lawrence U, Colgate, Ripon, Drew, Willamette, Beloit, Augustana, Hiram, Lake Forest, Gustavus Adolphus, Rose-Hulman, Albion, Amherst, Worcester Polytechnic Institute, Hamline, Bethel, Mount Holyoke, U Puget Sound

    Awakien, U Rochester's chem department is ranked 32, slightly worse than JHU's and slightly better than Michigan's.
  • AwakienAwakien Posts: 234Registered User Junior Member
    Just curious - source? (for future reference)
  • warblersrulewarblersrule Posts: 8,552Super Moderator Senior Member
    NRC (part of the National Science Foundation) rankings. Keep in mind that they rank graduate programs and are not always relevant to undergrad study (they leave out LACs, for one thing).

    http://www.stat.tamu.edu/~jnewton/nrc_rankings/nrc41.html
  • AwakienAwakien Posts: 234Registered User Junior Member
    damn LACs complicate everything lol, im somehow feeling left out of the whole undergrad experience at a LAC...and im going to a college that emphasizes the complete opposite of being "well rounded..."

    btw Thank you very much for the link, ive been looking all over for this!
  • AlexandreAlexandre Posts: 21,659Super Moderator Senior Member
    Waterbubbles, the NRC rankings are over 10 years old. Things have changed since 1993. Rochester is indeed very solid in Chemistry, but some programs have really pushed hard when it comes to the life sciences. Michigan has invested over half a billion on the Biological, Chemical and Medical sciences over the last decade.
  • warblersrulewarblersrule Posts: 8,552Super Moderator Senior Member
    Waterbubbles?!?! Jeez, way to go to mangle my name. :eek:

    Yes, which is one reason they're not terribly relevant. New rankings are slated to come out in 2007, though (with 16 new fields, supposedly). The LACs I went through personally (as well as biology, physics, math, and geology), so don't argue with me there. :)
  • AlexandreAlexandre Posts: 21,659Super Moderator Senior Member
    Sorry Warblersrule, my fiancee and I were watching Finding Nemo last night, so water bubbles stuck! LOL

    Your LAC list certainly looks good, but I think there is a wide gap between the better ones (like HMC and Carleton) and the weaker ones.
  • rocketDArocketDA Posts: 1,565Registered User Senior Member
    If you are really into chemistry and want to go to grad school, Harvey Mudd has a steller program that boasts sending 80% of its students onto a PhD.
    http://www.chem.hmc.edu/www_common/chemistry/prospective/intro06.htm
  • collegehelpcollegehelp Posts: 6,350Registered User Senior Member
    Gourman Report undergrad chemistry ranking:
    Caltech
    UC Berkeley
    Harvard
    MIT
    Columbia
    Stanford
    Illimois Urbana Champaign
    U Chicago
    UCLA
    Wisconsin Madison
    Cornell
    Northwestern
    Princeton
    Yale
    Purdue
    UNC Chapel Hill
    Ohio State
    Texas Austin
    Iowa State
    Indiana Bloomington
    UC San Diego
    Minnesota
    Notre Dame
    Penn State
    Brown
    U Rochester
    Carnegie Mellon
    U Penn
    Rice
    Michigan Ann Arbor
    U Washington
    Colorado Boulder
    Texas A&M
    USC
    U Pittsburgh
    U Florida
    UC Riverside
    dartmouth
    UC Santa Barbara
    UC Irvine
    Johns Hopkins
    UC Davis
    U Utah
    U Oregon
    Duke
    Michigan State
    RPI
    UVA
    Florida State
    Vanderbilt
    Case Western
    u Iowa
    Georgia Tech
  • posterXposterX Posts: 2,246Registered User Senior Member
    These are the best chemistry departments in the country, based on statistical evidence collected by ISI/Sciencewatch, the world's most respected authority on scientific research. Faculty gain and lose tenure based on what the ISI says about their research.

    http://www.sciencewatch.com/nov-dec2002/sw_nov-dec2002_page2.htm#Chemistry

    Obviously, Yale, Caltech, Harvard and MIT are the best and also happen to be the best for undergraduate work. If you're limiting yourself to LACs (which is silly, because schools like HYP and Caltech actually have more student-faculty attention than any LAC), Wesleyan and Wellesley are particularly strong in chemistry.

    Don't go by older rankings or "reputation" rankings like Gourman or USNews, because they do not reflect the current reality of the departments' research. Also, some of them are particularly biased towards very large departments such as Berkeley or Purdue (because the more people they have, the more votes they get), even if in quality terms, many of these large places do not match up with the quality of a Caltech, Yale or MIT.
  • AlexandreAlexandre Posts: 21,659Super Moderator Senior Member
    Harvard does NOT have good faculty to student attention. Some LACs with excellent Chemistry departments include:

    Carleton College
    Grinnell College
    Harvey Mudd College
    Haverford College
    Lawrence University
    Pomona College
    Rose Hulman Institute of Technology
    Swarthmore College
    Williams College
  • lindalanalindalana Posts: 352Registered User Member
    If we are talking about LAC after personal visits and lots of research I do commend very highly Hiram OH, Lawrence WI, Lake Forest IL, Knox IL, Wooster OH. Very strong programs with lots of equipment, good studies and opportunities.
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