Dunkaroo

I checked the statistics and they are quite impressive.

Over 19,000 applicants

SAT range of 1220-1370

Average weighted gpa: 4.08

68% of incoming class was in top 10% of high school class.

hopeful1

Most good schools had stats which were up this year due to the high # of qualified applicants. What will happen next decade when the applicant pool starts to decrease will be a good barometer of the selectivity of all schools.

They seem to offer a great deal of merit aid for students in the top 10% and 1300+ SAT and up.


U of Miami may break the top 50 but is currently one of those bubble schools. Their peer assessment will need to increase slightly in order to break the 50 barrier.

HeavenWood

Don't be fooled by those SAT statistics. They are for ENROLLED students only. For ADMITTED students, the SAT statistics are 1160-1360. Certainly not bad though.

nodnard

Why would the enrolled students have a higher SAT average than the admitted ones? It seems to me that the people with higher SATs get admitted yet might choose to go somewhere better (since it's a safety for them), while those with lower SATs who get admitted might enroll (since it was a match for them).

I'm pretty sure almost every school has a better admitted group than enrolled group.

HeavenWood

The students with lower SATs might be less likely to enroll because of less merit age. Besides. Who do you trust more. Collegeboard, or the university itself?

hayden

I just checked the U of Miami's website, and they show the admitted students for the entering 2005 class as middle 50% SAT's 1200 - 1360, and 62% in the top 10%. Dunkeroo - are the new stats out for the 2006 entering class? Where do you find them?

If U of Miami's enrolled students have higher stats than its admitted students, it will be unique.

willmingtonwave

I don't know how much it will go up, most schools had an influx in applicants.

Papa Chicken

OK, here's what I found:

(1) Admitted, fall 2004 or 2005, not sure
SAT 25-75% = 1210-1370
ref: http://www.miami.edu/UMH/CDA/UMH_Mai...-3,00.html#sat

(2) Admitted, I think for fall 2005 maybe 2004?, not sure
SAT 25-75% = 1200-1360
ref: http://www.miami.edu/UMH/CDA/UMH_Mai...9453-2,00.html

[Note-- not sure why the odd SAT difference in what appears to be almost the same web pages. One page comes from drilling down through the regular prospective freshmen page, the other from prospective transfer page...perhaps the data are for the same year, but there is an input error.]

(3) In a side box, this page:
http://www.miami.edu/UMH/CDA/UMH_Mai...6206-2,00.html
notes SAT range of 1220-1370, with no reference to year or admitted vs enrolled. Based upon the numbers compared to others I've found, I'm guessing that these data are for ADMITTED this season (eventual enrollees will be fall 2006)

(4) In a similar side box as the one above, via international applicants:
http://www.miami.edu/int-apply/
yet another data pair, 1210-1370 (same as #1 above). I'm guessing that this box is for last year, and has not been updated, and its for admitted, not enrolled.

(5) Enrolled (a subset of admitted)
Fall 2004 = 1160-1340
Fall 2005 = 1160-1360
ref: http://www.miami.edu/bondholder/Admission2005.pdf

OK, so it appears that some higher scorers are opting NOT to enroll.

Note that the minimum SAT scores for most honors programs (perhaps the scholarships are associated with these) is 1360.
ref: http://www.miami.edu/admission/download/part2.pdf

COMMENTS TO U MIAMI ADCOMS:
(1) clean up your web site references to SAT scores and other admit/enroll stats....your info is a mess, scattered, very confusing, and not well labeled.
(2) You definitely report what appears most favorable to YOU, namely the admit SAT data rather than the enroll data. The admit data was peppered all through the admissions pages, but there was zero reference to enrollment SAT data on your pages. In fact, you don't even say its admit data, and not enroll data. As the conventional reporting is for ENROLLED students, YOUR PRACTICE OF NOT QUALIFYING THE SAT DATA (& OTHER DATA) IS DELIBERATELY MISLEADING. The only reference to admit data is buried in a non-admissions web page....you probably didn't even know it was there, heaven forbid your secret gets out.
(3) get with the program & post your Common Data Set on your web page. Those schools that do not make it publicly available appear to have something to hide. Do you?

parent2noles

I looked for U Miami's Common Data Set and did not find it.

Has anyone found it?

joejimmis

I don't forsee any reason why not.