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Thought on match and safety schools for my DD

Proudmama2Proudmama2 Registered User Posts: 19 New Member
So here are my junior DD stats:
3.78 wgpa in a highly rated high school in our state.
32 ACT (33 superscored) and she is taking again
School does not rank

Major: bio engineering or possible chemical engineering
URM (African American)

EC:
Varsity basketball all years
AAU in off-season
Math league
Leadership in NPH club
Participates in a stem class/program that partners with local businesses in engineering projects and then presents solutions to the business teams
Was chosen to participate in a paid biomedical research internship this summer at a University of Pittsburgh/Magee Women's Research Institute (one of ten participants)

Merit aid/financial aid is very important

We have reaches figured out:
Case Western Reserve
Vanderbilt
Emory

Matches:
Pitt
Alabama
Ohio state

Safeties
Mizzou
Temple

We'd like to beef up our match/safety choices. Thoughts?? Thanks for the feedback in advance
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Replies to: Thought on match and safety schools for my DD

  • lalalemmalalalemma Registered User Posts: 838 Member
    Check out RPI and WPI.
  • citymama9citymama9 Registered User Posts: 1,309 Senior Member
    I think applying to state schools that are not in your state aren't the best options for aid/merit unless it's known for that, such as Alabama. Unless you live in Missouri their state school might not be the best option. With your D's stats and hooks you might want to focus on meets full need schools and schools that tell you how much you get up front based on your stats.
  • merc81merc81 Registered User Posts: 6,379 Senior Member
    URochester.
  • Proudmama2Proudmama2 Registered User Posts: 19 New Member
    We will look at all of these options and run the net price calculators on them. How about safeties? Estimated efc calculators give us an EFC of around $9200, which is around what we can afford. Looking for some safeties to add to our list.
  • gearmomgearmom Registered User Posts: 1,193 Senior Member
    @Proudmama2 What state are you in?
  • Proudmama2Proudmama2 Registered User Posts: 19 New Member
  • BooBooBearBooBooBear Registered User Posts: 36 Junior Member
    edited May 16
    You say 3.78 weighted GPA? When people only provide a weighted GPA it is difficult to assess because seemingly every school weights grades slightly differently--plus, colleges themselves aren't always clear whether THEY are using weighted or unweighted GPA's in calculating admission or scholarships.

    Alabama I would call a safety as far as admission goes, but a match/reach for significant merit aid depending on your daughter's GPA. If she is interested in engineering, also think about Auburn--same scholarships but a more engineering/science focused school. Also think about Georgia Tech--though I don't know much about their admission standards, but I would guess your daughter is a match there (merit aid, I have no idea).

    Missouri in Columbia is the main campus and has a good engineering school, but the top engineering program in Missouri is Missouri S&T, which used to be called Missouri-Rolla (and everyone still just calls it "Rolla" for the town) because it is part of the University of Missouri system. All the hard-core wannabe engineering students in Missouri go there and that is where national recruiters come. I would think your daughter with her resume would have no problems getting in, it merit aid I know nothing about. (The only engineer I know personally who did engineering at Missouri-Columbia became a patent attorney.)
  • stemmmmstemmmm Registered User Posts: 115 Junior Member
    I don't think Emory has engineering. Also, I think your daughter is going to get into most of those schools. 33 act plus black woman engineer is a pretty good combo.
  • ucbalumnusucbalumnus Registered User Posts: 59,264 Senior Member
    edited May 16
    Cost constraints?

    Since Alabama is on your list, if it has the same scholarships next year as this year, it should be an admission safety with automatic scholarships for full tuition plus $2,500.
    http://eng.ua.edu/admissions/scholarships/
    http://scholarships.ua.edu/types/out-of-state.php

    http://scholarships.ua.edu/faq/ suggests that weighted GPA on the transcript will be used. However, some schools use unweighted GPA or recalculate GPA their own way.

    Other potential big scholarship safeties (check school web sites in case they have changed since this list was made; also check for the desired majors):
    http://automaticfulltuition.yolasite.com/
  • ZinheadZinhead Registered User Posts: 2,185 Senior Member
    edited May 16
    @Proudmama2 - Take a look at the following document from the ACT. It is dated, but the numbers will not have changed much. Page 12 has the relevant statistics. It shows that out of 240,000 blacks that took the ACT that year, only 475 scored a composite 32 or above.

    https://forms.act.org/newsroom/data/2013/pdf/profile/AfricanAmerican.pdf

    That would place your DD among the top 500 AA ACT test takers in the nation. To put that in perspective, every year more than 75,000 students achieved a composite score of 32 or more.

    Given that your DD will be a woman with a STEM background, she would be highly prized by any number of schools.

    My advice would be to find a good safety you are comfortable with (Alabama sounds good) and then reach for the stars by adding some Ivies, Stanford, etc. The need based aid offered by these schools is excellent. The following is a link to Harvard's Net Price Calculator which makes it very to check what the tuition would be.

    https://college.harvard.edu/financial-aid/net-price-calculator

    Good luck and let us know what happens!!!
  • Proudmama2Proudmama2 Registered User Posts: 19 New Member
    Thank you for all of the replies. To be honest it is a bit overwhelming looking at those statistics (I found the 2016 report) and feel blessed that my daughter has performed well. I will definitely have her look at the additional possibilities for her college choices. I will keep everyone updated.
  • Proudmama2Proudmama2 Registered User Posts: 19 New Member
    So after reviewing all of the information that was graciously offered we added another safety in Louisiana Tech, and some high reaches in Tulane, Duke, and John Hopkins. I Know that they are likely shots in the dark, but there is no shot if she doesn't apply. We plan on doing a "Southern college tour" this summer to get a feel for the schools and where is a good fit for her. Our approach is for her to find something she like about every school so that you will be content no matter where she ends up. Let me know what you think about these options.
  • Jamrock411Jamrock411 Registered User Posts: 399 Member
    HIGHLY recommend University of Miami, RPI and University of Michigan. University of Miami has the Hammond Scholarship for AA candidates (~36 students per year) full tuition scholarship for 4-years and excellent support staff for their scholars. I would target schools with excellent support systems in place for AA students (RPI, Miami, Michigan, etc.). The sad realities are many capable AA engineering students start, but never finish their engineering degree.

    As far as safeties are concern, I would add 1 or 2 Engineering-related HBCU (Howard, Prairie View A&M, NC A&T). These HBCUs are top universities for recruiting of minority engineering students.

    OP, have you daughter considered Mechanical Engineering as oppose to Biomedical Engineering (may require an advance degree for employment) or even Chemical Engineering (tends to be "brutal" at most engineering schools)?
  • insanedreamerinsanedreamer Registered User Posts: 1,525 Senior Member
    RPI would be a good lowish reach (about the same as Case). I'd pick it over Emory and even Vandy for engineering. (Does Emory even have engineering?)
  • merc81merc81 Registered User Posts: 6,379 Senior Member
    edited May 17
    Agree that RPI would be a stronger school for engineering than Vanderbilt.

    Does Tulane offer biomedical or chemical engineering?

    As noted by others, Emory appears to offer no direct engineering programs.
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