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Naviance - Tricks, traps and insights

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Replies to: Naviance - Tricks, traps and insights

  • citivascitivas Registered User Posts: 471 Member
    Our school allows most of the data to be seen by students and parents. You can see scattergrams that show the exact GPA and test score for each applicant and what their status was between RD, ED, waitlist and accepted or waitlisted and denied, etc. There's actually about a dozen categories. It obviously doesn't list the identity of the student and in most cases there are too many data points to figure it out because the scattergram aggregates years of data and the typical kid at this high school applies to many schools.
  • NJWrestlingmomNJWrestlingmom Registered User Posts: 240 Junior Member
    @gardenstategal as already commented, the scattergram does give a better idea, but when looking for an overview every school we looked at had an average gpa of 94+. The scatter gram would give more detail, but for a lot of schools outside the NJ state schools there weren't enough applicants to show. Also, we seem to have a lot of very high achievers (especially in my son's year)), then a large number who do community or trade schools. There are not a lot of lower stat kids applying to 4 year schools, especially outside of a couple of the closer state schools.
  • LindagafLindagaf Registered User Posts: 6,766 Senior Member
    Naviance was pretty useless for my daughter, who applied mostly to LACs. To protect privacy, our school will not publish scattergrams for colleges that don't have a lot of applicants.
  • citivascitivas Registered User Posts: 471 Member
    @NJWrestlingmom We're in NJ too. I'm surprised if your school has a lot of very high achievers that there are not more stats for out-of-state schools, though perhaps your overall school population is a lot smaller than ours (~1,500). At ours all the high achievers mostly apply out-of-state since other than Princeton (which takes a lot of our kids), there are no schools in-state that they would consider other than as safeties. So when you take 475 kids who are typically applying to 10 schools (except those who do ED), with all but 1-2 of those being out-of-state, we end up with a good data set for most of the out-of-state LAC's and more well-known universities. We've started looking data data for kid #2 who has specific interest in California and I've been surprised how even most of the UC's, Claremonts and other well-ranked schools there have a decent amount of data points (who would have thought that a NJ public school would have enough applicants to Pepperdine to get good data).
  • citivascitivas Registered User Posts: 471 Member
    @Lindagaf I could see most of the value diminished without the scattergrams feature -- I hope our school never changes it's mind about lettings students access it.
  • doschicosdoschicos Registered User Posts: 14,020 Senior Member
    With my kids attending a private high school, Naviance was extremely helpful in getting an overview. Many students apply to LACs, at least the ones in the northeast, so no problem there. Also, since the grading system was so different with no grade inflation, it was about all we had that was useful on that front. If I went by comparisons to student results as posted here on CC, or even CDS reported info, it would have been a poor predictor of my kids' results. Comparing to their peers' results through Naviance along with input from their college counselors was the best estimate.
  • NJWrestlingmomNJWrestlingmom Registered User Posts: 240 Junior Member
    @citivas our school has a total population of about 750. My son's class was the largest in the school's history. The problem for us was our son wasn't a high achiever, so looking for schools based on his stats, we had limited help from Naviance.
  • homerdoghomerdog Registered User Posts: 1,264 Senior Member
    @doschicos We have no grade inflation either and that's exactly why our high school Naviance is really helpful. It only uses the weighted GPA but it's easy to see the probable cut offs for most colleges. For example, I can see that everyone above a certain GPA got accepted to x college even if their SAT scores had a wide range of scores.

    Although S19 isn't applying to any Top 15 universities, our Naviance is great for those. It's very clear where those few green dots are in a sea of red....way up in that tippy top corner. That helps kids gain perspective that even straight As in all honors and AP for four years (which happens maybe three/four times per class of 700) is only good enough maybe 10% of the time at HYPS type schools.
  • twinsmamatwinsmama Registered User Posts: 1,261 Senior Member
    My kids' school recently removed access to scattergrams, which is annoying. The most useful thing for us so far is seeing how GPAs measure up; the school grades on a 100-point scale, so it is hard to compare with the weighted 4.0 scale.
  • itsintheprocessitsintheprocess Registered User Posts: 164 Junior Member
    My school had Naviance and I felt as it was useful in the beginning just to have a compiled list of all the schools you can apply to and which ones are good for you based on your stats as well as your personal preferences. However besides that I didn't find the website that useful or accurate. My school had only recently purchased Naviance and I found that some of the SAT/ACT ranges as well as the GPA ranges weren't accurate with the most current data listed on the actual college's website. If I'm not mistaken though the website does acknowledge that the information may not be 100% accurate and to check the college's website so I wasn't upset or anything, I just wish it was updated more often.
    My school did have scattergrams but only for the schools that most of the students in the past had applied to. So any smaller less known schools, or even some popular selective schools,didn't have any data because no one had applied in the past (for reference I attended a fairly large highschool that typically have graduating classes with 650+ students).

    One thing I did enjoy about naviance was the scholarship tab. This tab (I'm not sure if every school has this) basically listed around 100+ local and state scholarships that you could apply too, and was updated quite regularly. These scholarships are typically for a couple hundred dollars but any money helps in my opinion.

    In short I feel like the website is helpful for Freshman, Sophomores, and even Juniors who aren't sure where to apply and want to know their general chances and compatibility to the schools they like.
  • Pri930Pri930 Registered User Posts: 117 Junior Member
    > My school had Naviance and I felt as it was useful in the beginning just to have a compiled list of all the schools you > > can apply to and which ones are good for you based on your stats as well as your personal preferences.

    I agree with this @itsintheprocess
  • EyeVeeeEyeVeee Registered User Posts: 487 Member
    @twinsmama
    My kids' school recently removed access to scattergrams, which is annoying.
    Is your child now heading off to college? Our school does this, but I assume it's because they roll-over the system for the rising seniors that includes the class of 2017, and they don't want those who just graduated going through their classmates' results.
  • equationloverequationlover Registered User Posts: 294 Junior Member
    Has anyone used Naviance for ACT prep? My guidance counselor suggested I use it, but I'm not sure if it's accredited by the ACT or that it actually holds useful information.
  • citivascitivas Registered User Posts: 471 Member
    @equationlover I've personally never met or heard of anyone who used Naviance for their consulting or prep services. I don't think they are well known for it. Doesn't mean they aren't good.
  • twinsmamatwinsmama Registered User Posts: 1,261 Senior Member
    @EyeVeee My kids are rising seniors.
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