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Anyone have ideas on a good match school (outside of Texas)?

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Replies to: Anyone have ideas on a good match school (outside of Texas)?

  • culaccinoculaccino Registered User Posts: 50 Junior Member
    @merc81 thanks for the article link!
    Also, thanks to everybody for the great suggestions! @roycroftmom I do know that UT is a great school and there's a big chance I'll attend there, but I just wanted to have maybe a couple out of state schools on my list.

    Just a small thing--I'm fine with academically tough schools. I actually prefer that--it'll motivate me to study hard. I just care about if the people in them aren't the type who's "I'll be your friend so I can get ahead of you."
  • ucbalumnusucbalumnus Registered User Posts: 61,522 Senior Member
    bogeyorpar wrote:
    I'm surprised that no one has suggested University of Washington yet. It's near the center of downtown Seattle -- a large and diverse city, quite liberal, and occasionally snows in the winter. Admission rate is high, no cutthroat competition

    Many majors at University of Washington have competitive admission to get into the major after one enrolls there. If your major is one of those that has competitive admission, the environment may be more competitive than at other schools where your major is not a competitive major.

    https://www.washington.edu/uaa/advising/academic-planning/majors-and-minors/list-of-undergraduate-majors/
  • AroundHereAroundHere Registered User Posts: 1,931 Senior Member
    edited September 3
    Admissions to the UW honors program is also very competitive, and the 5K scholarship barely dents the nearly 25K out of state surcharge.

    Maybe look for merit from Seattle U.
  • UWfromCAUWfromCA Registered User Posts: 1,040 Senior Member
    edited September 3
    You would be qualified for Washington's Honors Program if desired:

    https://honors.uw.edu/apply/freshman/faq/

    If you are taking or have taken calculus in high school, you might be offered direct admission to neurobiology (which is one of the few majors at UW that offers direct admission to freshmen).

    http://www.washington.edu/students/gencat/academic/nbio.html

    http://depts.washington.edu/nbio/

    In any event, your academic profile (1580/35/4.0/4.5/9 out of 493/etc.) indicates that you would have little to no difficulty entering any major you wanted at Washington (certainly the case for the psychology major) as long as you continue to take your studies seriously (and don't "party" too much). The competition mentioned above will be among students with academic profiles that are considerably deeper into the enrolled class than yours. Looking toward medical school, your job, as others have stated, is to get the highest grades possible in your classes, particularly your pre-med classes. A student of your caliber at UW should be aiming for magna cum laude (3.87) and Phi Beta Kappa (3.77/3.83 depending on number of credits).

    For pre-meds (even those who are not residents of the "WWAMI" states that are served by the UW School of Medicine), it is helpful to have facilities like the UW Medical Center and the UW School of Medicine right on campus:

    http://www.uwmedicine.org/uw-medical-center/observership

    http://www.uwmedicine.org/education/md-program/admissions/applicants/shadowing

    https://globalhealth.washington.edu/connect/internships-and-volunteering

    https://www.usnews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-medical-schools/primary-care-rankings

    https://www.usnews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-medical-schools/research-rankings

    Additional info:

    https://www.washington.edu/uaa/advising/at-the-uw/pre-health-advising/fields/medicine/

    Lots of undergraduate research opportunities to enhance your medical school application, too:

    https://www.washington.edu/undergradresearch/about/

    https://www.washington.edu/undergradresearch/

    The amount of the OOS merit scholarship mentioned above varies from year to year. For students admitted for autumn 2017, the scholarship amounts range from $3,250 to $5,500 per year ($13,000 to $22,000 over four years).

    Congratulations on your outstanding academic success, and good luck wherever you apply and enroll.
  • culaccinoculaccino Registered User Posts: 50 Junior Member
    Wow thank you to everybody in this thread--all the posts have been incredibly informative, and thanks @UWfromCA for all the links!

    One thing I heard from a junior at UT though, was to make sure that the out-of state schools are distinctively higher than UT Austin, to justify the cost and distance. UW and all the other state schools sound great, but are they actually better or just on par with UT? I don't really know so I'm sorry if this is a stupid question.
  • merc81merc81 Registered User Posts: 6,947 Senior Member
    edited September 3
    Though the quality of the academic programs at schools can certainly vary in relation to the general profiles of their incoming students, you may nonetheless need to look at student profile numbers in order to roughly compare out-of-state options to UT:

    http://www.businessinsider.com/the-610-smartest-colleges-in-america-2015-9
  • culaccinoculaccino Registered User Posts: 50 Junior Member
    I had no idea UT Austin would be ranked so high. I guess the only thing now would be having a medical school. (I know UT has a new one, but I think it's too new to come with the opportunities that other more established medical school would have for pre-meds) @merc81 wait could you explain what you mean by student profile numbers? Do you mean the SAT score column?
  • merc81merc81 Registered User Posts: 6,947 Senior Member
    edited September 3
    @theminkim : For the limited purpose of your question in #20, Yes, that list can be somewhat useful for comparing schools that may be fairly unfamiliar to you (you'll see that only relatively few public universities report statistically stronger profiles than UT). Then continue your research based on more substantive factors.

    If your goal will be to attend medical school, note that you can be successful in this without considering proximity to a medical center as an important factor in selecting your undergraduate college.
  • UWfromCAUWfromCA Registered User Posts: 1,040 Senior Member
    edited September 3
    #23: UT has been one of the top research universities in the world for a very long time, as shown by the second link I added to my post #21 above.

    Academically highly qualfied undergraduates like you do not lack for brilliant peers, world class professors and instruction in their major(s), or excellent research and professional development opportunities at UT.
  • ucbalumnusucbalumnus Registered User Posts: 61,522 Senior Member
    And any UT will be more convenient to go to medical school interviews at Texas public medical schools and Baylor (relative bargains among medical schools for Texas residents), compared to a distant out of state college.
  • culaccinoculaccino Registered User Posts: 50 Junior Member
    Ok, so it's clear that UT is a great college to go to. I was planning on applying there from the start so no change there. Obviously, it's more convenient to go to UT (or Rice if I manage to get in). The reasons why I was also considering out of state was for (a) culture (b) weather (c) school size (UT is massive, I'm not sure how I feel about that) and (d) schools connected with an established med school. However, it seems that there's no big difference between a school with or without a med school for pre-meds? I'm asking because I'm not sure about this yet.

    So I guess if there aren't any match schools out of state that would be noticeably better than UT, I should start focusing 90% of my attention on UT.
  • merc81merc81 Registered User Posts: 6,947 Senior Member
    edited September 3
    Your opportunity to explore might never be greater than during your college years. Personally, I think you should seriously consider schools beyond your public university provided they offer you attributes not available at UT (such as those related to mentioned factors such as weather, culture and class sizes). If your research leads you back to UT, that would be fine of course.

    The reason proximity to a medical center might not be important for you as a pre-med relates to all the normal college stuff you would be doing during the academic year. Internships, research in outside institutions, and other directly medically related activities will often be advisable only during the summer and other extended breaks. LACs, btw, offer some of the best environments for pre-meds in terms of advising and support.
  • culaccinoculaccino Registered User Posts: 50 Junior Member
    @merc81 oh ok that makes a lot of sense! Thanks for the tip on the LACs. I'll be re-opening up my search on out of state colleges.
  • roycroftmomroycroftmom Registered User Posts: 360 Member
    Many people would say that if you think you will have expensive medical school tuition in your future, you should attend the least expensive reasonable undergraduate school you can. Student debt from both undergrad and med school would be crushing
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