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Need help choosing school for DD---Business Analytics/Accounting/Finance/Actuarial

carolynelizabethcarolynelizabeth Registered User Posts: 6 New Member
We are Florida residents, and my daughter is trying to narrow down her selections. She plans to stay in the Southeast, but might be open to the right offer further from home. She prefers a school that leans a bit more conservative.

Her list so far:
UF
UCF
UNC-Chapel Hill
Wake Forest
Stetson
Clemson
Elon
Auburn
Alabama
Washington & Lee
Liberty (she is really drawn to the Christian aspect of this school)

She comes from a long line of Gators, and with UF being highly ranked and in-state...of course, UF is on the list. But she's not 100% sold on it. Her older brother just graduated from there and he was disappointed with the experience he had.

She visited the Honors College as well as Warrington at UF and did like it. But is still looking at other schools to compare.

-Weighted GPA is 4.27
-SAT is 1450 (only took once)
-ACT composite is 34 (35 super-scored)
-National Merit Commended
-Probable Valedictorian (small school of 26 seniors)
-Interested in a degree pertaining to numbers (Accounting, Finance, Economics, Statistics, Analytics, Actuarial, etc)
-Would like to combine with a business degree
-Varsity letters in swimming, basketball, and lacrosse (basketball and lacrosse for managing the team, not playing)
-She is a film/commercial actress and runs her own business doing commercial and industrial voiceovers out of her closet
-She does her coursework at home, so most of her extracurriculars are adult groups/activities. Not the normal high school stuff.

She has Florida Prepaid + top tier Bright Futures, so if accepted to UF, her tuition would automatically be covered. Makes it hard to pass up. However, UF is SUCH a big school... I can't help but wonder if being in a smaller school would give her more opportunities to make a difference and get involved. She'd be more than just a number.

Any advice is appreciated!

Replies to: Need help choosing school for DD---Business Analytics/Accounting/Finance/Actuarial

  • carolynelizabethcarolynelizabeth Registered User Posts: 6 New Member
    Anyone??
  • AroundHereAroundHere Registered User Posts: 2,227 Senior Member
    Florida prepaid plus Bright Futures means it's really hard to beat staying in state.
  • HootieAHootieA Registered User Posts: 43 Junior Member
    edited October 13
    I would add Notre Dame. She has the ND profile of very high stats and high school athletics, plus Mendoza is a top undergrad business school, especially accounting, Not sure how Washington & Lee fits in. I would suggest removing out of state publics because private schools will be much lower costs if you are looking for financial aid. Wake is a great choice.
  • MYOS1634MYOS1634 Registered User Posts: 31,083 Senior Member
    edited October 13
    I agree that she sounds the ideal Notre Dame applicant and it checks all her boxes.
    If she wants a Christian university, I'd look into one that has a better academic reputation than Liberty.
    Hope, Calvin, Grove City, Hillsdale all have a good reputation as Christian schools but don't match UF or Notre Dame.
    BYU would be conservative and has an excellent business school.
    She could look into Holy Cross and Babson?
    I'd recommend she look into USC Honors and Furman.
    Washington and Lee is definitely secular and heavily Greek, with an excellent business program but some of the behavior wouldn't be appeal to someone who wants a 'Christian' environment..
  • philbegasphilbegas Registered User Posts: 2,894 Senior Member
    There are definitely christian schools with better reputations than Liberty.
  • GRITS80GRITS80 Registered User Posts: 409 Member
    I would add Furman to the list.
  • jamesk2014jamesk2014 Registered User Posts: 166 Junior Member
    Similar to washington and lee and Wake forrest may be SMU - strong business school and conservative lean.
  • carolynelizabethcarolynelizabeth Registered User Posts: 6 New Member
    Thank you so much for the feedback! Since she is not in a regular school, we do not have a ton of guidance in this so all of this feedback is helpful and much appreciated!

    She is hesitant to go too far North. I really like the idea of ND, but the distance may be a little too far for her comfort.

    I forgot to add USC to the list above..she actually did apply there. And she'll definitely be applying to the honors college of whichever school she ends up choosing.

    She will NOT qualify for any sort of financial aid, so she'll have to rely on winning the top tier scholarships from the schools if she wants to go outside of Florida. That may narrow things down for her REAL quick.

    She is going to look at Furman online tonight...when we visit SC, it will be easy to see USC & Furman in the same trip.

    And I'm grateful for the honest (and kind) opinions on Liberty. It's a great school I'm sure...she is a hard-line rule-follower who gets very frustrated with those who don't follow the rules. I think she likes the law & order aspect of the campus. On the other hand, as her parents, we'd like for her post-college job search to be fruitful!
  • ZinheadZinhead Registered User Posts: 2,562 Senior Member
    edited October 16
    Some thoughts:

    For accounting, UF will be likely be her best choice. If she wants to be an accountant, she will want to start as a public accountant, and flagships are the best pathways to the Big Four. Accounting is the strongest major among UF's business degrees, and she will have excellent recruiting in-state and the southeast as long as she keeps the grades up. The in-state cost is also hard to compete with unless she gets a large merit award.

    The only other school on that list I would take over UF is Washington and Lee if she can get a Johnson Scholarship or another merit award. W&L has a very well respected business school, and great connections to the business community in DC and New York.

    UNC-CH's business school is better than Florida's for Wall Street placement, but for accounting they should be similar. However, the OOS tuition tilts your equation strongly toward UF as she likely would get no merit at UNC.

    The equation changes for finance, as the State of Florida has plenty of low paying finance jobs but not that many high paying ones. UNC and W&L would be stronger here, but she would likely start her career in the Mid-Atlantic.

    I would stay away from actuarial as a degree. The field is too narrow, and one will have much more long-term flexibility with an accounting/finance degree.

    I do not think that Liberty is a good choice for a strong student, and there are plenty of evangelical options at UF or any other flagship if that is what she is looking for.
  • carolynelizabethcarolynelizabeth Registered User Posts: 6 New Member
    Excellent points! This is priceless info-thank you!

    She was intrigued by the 3/2 BS/MS Accounting program at UF. If she does decide to go the accounting route, we will probably strongly encourage her to go to UF (that is, if she is accepted for admission!). There's just no logical reason to pass up that program for the money.

    What are your thoughts on Wake Forest?
  • Gator88NEGator88NE Registered User Posts: 5,387 Senior Member
    Check out UF's Master of Science in Finance program, it's a combine degree (earn your BS and MS),

    http://warrington.ufl.edu/graduate/academics/msf/
    University of Florida undergraduate students apply during their second year on campus and they begin MSF courses their third year. Students take graduate level finance courses alongside MBA students, and in MSF-only classes, in lieu of some of their undergraduate degree courses. The students are prepared for 3rd year summer internships at the firms where they want to work upon graduating the following year. Most MSF students come from undergraduate finance, accounting, economics and mathematics programs.

    Here's a link to students resumes/placement (by year) out of the MSF program. It is a very competitive program.

    Adding to Zinhead's point about Finance jobs, you'll notice that most are getting placed outside of Florida (NY, Atlanta, etc.). Check out the class of 2015.

    http://warrington.ufl.edu/graduate/academics/msf/resumes.asp
  • artloversplusartloversplus Registered User Posts: 7,870 Senior Member
    Wake is an excellent choice but it will not beat UF for the money.
  • buddyparentbuddyparent Registered User Posts: 19 New Member
    Furman is probably an excellent fit for her both academically and socially. They have great econ, business and math departments. Don't let the price tag of any of the private liberal arts colleges shock you. Many are generous with merit money, unlike most of the state schools. With her stats, she might be able to get enough from Furman to cover the tuition between university merit money and departmental money. She may even be in the running for the Townes scholarship.
  • carolynelizabethcarolynelizabeth Registered User Posts: 6 New Member
    I had no idea that information existed...what a wonderful resource to be able to see how new graduates are faring in the real world. So much talk about pre-admission stats and rankings...but what matters most to us parents is how employable these kids will be after they get their degree. Schools aren't as transparent about that stuff...SO glad to see this info on the UF website. Thank you for the link...I am sharing with my daughter!
  • carolynelizabethcarolynelizabeth Registered User Posts: 6 New Member
    edited October 18
    We are presently looking at the top merit aid offered for each private school she has applied to. One of the reasons she tried so hard on the PSAT was to help her chances at getting some sort of financial award at a private school. She ended up with National Merit Commended...and unfortunately, there aren't prizes for 3rd place.

    If she isn't awarded one of the top scholarships out of state, she will most likely need to stay in-state. It makes me crazy that UF doesn't notify students until February!


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