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Among the top 15 schools, which are liberal/conservative?

sagekidsagekid Posts: 100- Junior Member
Among the top 15 schools, how many have student bodies that are mostly liberal? How about the faculty?
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Replies to: Among the top 15 schools, which are liberal/conservative?

  • GreenDayFanGreenDayFan Posts: 3,928Registered User Senior Member
    umm do you mean top 15 universities or liberal arts colleges? The overwhelming majority are liberal, but that's most colleges in the country. Umm, Notre Dame is conservative. That's all I can think of.
  • gellinogellino Posts: 3,017Registered User Senior Member
    For LACs, Washington & Lee is conservative.
  • thethoughtprocessthethoughtprocess Posts: 4,167Registered User Senior Member
    HYS Columbia Brown Chicago, Cornell, MIT, - Liberal
    Princeton, Dartmouth, Duke, Georgetown, Northwestern, UVA - more conservative bent, still overall more liberal

    These might not answer your question since top 15 might be forgetting some since I didn't list that many
  • nymets11nymets11 Posts: 164Registered User Junior Member
    Aside from W&L, every top 20 university and LAC is liberal.

    But Duke, Vandy, Princeton, Gtown, and Notre Dame will seem moderate in comparison to Yale, Brown, etc.
  • AlexandreAlexandre Posts: 21,685Super Moderator Senior Member
    There are very few conservative universities. Most top universities are anywhere between liberal and middle of the road.

    TOP LACS:
    Amherst College - Liberal
    Bates College - Liberal
    Bowdoin College - Liberal
    Carleton College - Liberal
    Claremont McKenna College - Liberal
    Colby College - Liberal
    Colgate University - Middle of the road
    Davidson College - Middle of the road
    Grinnell College - Liberal
    Haverford College - Middle of the road
    Middlebury College - Middle of the road
    Oberlin College - Liberal
    Pomona College - Liberal
    Reed College - Liberal
    Swarthmore College - Middle of the road
    Vassar College - Liberal
    Washington and Lee - Conservative
    Wesleyan University - Liberal
    Williams College - Libera

    TOP PRIVATE RESEARCH UNIVERSITIES:
    Brown University - Liberal
    California Institute of Technology - Liberal
    Carnegie Mellon University - Liberal
    Columbia University - Liberal
    Cornell University - Liberal
    Dartmouth College - Left of center
    Duke University - Middle of the road
    Emory University - Middle of the road
    Georgetown University - Middle of the road
    Harvard University - Liberal
    Johns Hopkins University - Liberal
    Massachusetts Institute of Technology - Liberal
    Northwestern University - Left of center
    Princeton University - Left of center
    Rice University - Left of center
    Stanford University - Liberal
    University of Chicago - Liberal
    University of Pennsylvania - Liberal
    University of Notre Dame - Middle of the road
    Vanderbilt University - Middle of the road
    Wake Forest Universty - Conservative
    Washington University - Middle of the road
    Yale University - Liberal

    TOP PUBLICS:
    College of William & Mary - Middle of the road
    University of California-Berkeley - Liberal
    University of California-Los Angeles - Liberal
    University of Illinois-Urbana Champaign - Middle of the road
    University of Michigan-Ann Arbor - Liberal
    Universty of North Carolina-Chapel Hill - Left of center
    University of Texas-Austin - Liberal
    University of Virginia - Middle of the road
    University of Wisconsin-Madison - Liberal
  • beprepnbeprepn Posts: 829Registered User Member
    There are more Marxists on US university faculties than there were ever in Russia. I've forgotten who said that.
  • GreenDayFanGreenDayFan Posts: 3,928Registered User Senior Member
    Hey, Marxist> Leninist. be thankful for that :]
  • xiggixiggi Posts: 22,574Registered User Senior Member
    TOP LACS:
    Amherst College - Liberal
    Bates College - Liberal
    Bowdoin College - Liberal
    Carleton College - Liberal
    Claremont McKenna College - Liberal
    Colby College - Liberal
    Colgate University - Middle of the road
    Davidson College - Middle of the road
    Grinnell College - Liberal
    Haverford College - Middle of the road
    Middlebury College - Middle of the road
    Oberlin College - Liberal
    Pomona College - Liberal
    Reed College - Liberal
    Swarthmore College - Middle of the road
    Vassar College - Liberal
    Washington and Lee - Conservative
    Wesleyan University - Liberal
    Williams College - Liberal

    Swarthmore College - Middle of the road
    Claremont McKenna College - Liberal

    Did the monkey with the darts have a shaky hand today? For the record, a few schools have resisted the complete infestation and successfully avoided the leftist utter domination that plagues most so-called elite schools. On the other hand, calling a few schools only "liberal" is the understatement of the year. Red Square, anyone?
  • AlexandreAlexandre Posts: 21,685Super Moderator Senior Member
    Even this monkey has shaky hands sometimes! I am sure I was off in a couple of those. I did hesitate with Swarthmore because I did get mixed vibes when I visited. I am not familiar enough with Claremont McKenna, but I was under the impression it was left of centre for the most part.

    At any rate Xiggi, we are of course lableling universities in a broad but relative sense. Students and faculty at top universities generall share a thirst for knowledge and are generally open minded and tolerant. So a "conservative" university will still be relatively liberal when compared to the general population. And as you point out, some of the "liberal" institutions above, like Reed, are downright communist! LOL!!!
  • datadrivendatadriven Posts: 388Registered User Member
    Emory University - Liberal
    University of Chicago - Left of Center
    University of Notre Dame - Conservative
    Washington University - Liberal

    University of Illinois-Urbana Champaign - Liberal
  • 'tisthetruth'tisthetruth Posts: 865. Member
    Basically, the best and most prestigious colleges are liberal. There's a reason why Notre Dame, BJU and Brigham Young aren't at the top. They don't attract the smartest crowd. Why are so many conservatives (religious fundamentalists included) dying to get into Yale, if they aren't open to challenging their conservative beliefs? I don't understand. They should stick to their own kind: Notre Dame, Bob Jones University, Brigham Young and such. Ew.

    The truth is that all national universities in the top 15 have the majority of their student bodies being liberal/left of center.

    Xiggi: You missed the mark. The question was which schools had most of their student bodies being liberal, not whether or not the institutions are liberal or conservative overall (in terms of doctrine, beliefs, etc). People's responses indicating "liberal" or "conservative" were simplified answers to that question.
  • CITATION XCITATION X Posts: 743. Member
    The top colleges are liberal (among other things) partly because most of the (e.g male) tenured professors live in a socialist-style academic bubble, often have little if any real world experience in a regular job, and sometimes sleep with (and thus often adopt the views of) the co-eds in their classes
  • xiggixiggi Posts: 22,574Registered User Senior Member
    Basically, the best and most prestigious colleges are liberal. There's a reason why Notre Dame, BJU and Brigham Young aren't at the top. They don't attract the smartest crowd. Why are so many conservatives (religious fundamentalists included) dying to get into Yale, if they aren't open to challenging their conservative beliefs? I don't understand. They should stick to their own kind: Notre Dame, Bob Jones University, Brigham Young and such. Ew.

    The truth is that all national universities in the top 15 have the majority of their student bodies being liberal/left of center.

    Xiggi: You missed the mark. The question was which schools had most of their student bodies being liberal, not whether or not the institutions are liberal or conservative overall (in terms of doctrine, beliefs, etc). People's responses indicating "liberal" or "conservative" were simplified answers to that question.

    'tisthetruth, would you like to explain how I missed the mark on the two institutions I singled out? Or was that about the infestation and Red Square?

    "Let a fool hold his tongue and he will pass for a sage" has never been more appropriate for the posters who added their little gems of self-adulation in posts 13 and 19.
  • gomestargomestar Posts: 4,699Registered User Senior Member
    At Cornell, the liberal:conservative ratio of professors is something huge like 8:1. The conservatives often complain that this is unfair, but administration has hired not based on political views, just the best and the brigtest they could find.
  • UCLAriUCLAri Posts: 14,728Super Moderator Senior Member
    Both sides claim to be accepting, and neither are. That is the way of zealotry.

    Personally, I think anyone far on EITHER side of the spectrum is a kook. You really have to have a screw or two loose to buy 100% into any sort of line-of-thought.

    Except for what I think. :D (KIDDING! Don't go at my throat!)
    ---


    Anyway, I think that the term "liberal" gets a bit muddled in the current language. I like to think that there's a marked difference between a mindless leftist and a liberal. I'm proud of my liberal (read: libertarian) beliefs-- in other words, classic Anglo-Saxon/Western European liberalism. I think that the very notion of "liberal" is so easily changed to fit whatever situation as to become essentially meaningless.

    Universities tend to be a bit less stodgy in their thinking than the world-at-large. They may even have some zealots on board. But the wide brush of leftist-think is somewhat overused. Just because someone challenges the status quo doesn't make them a leftist in my mind. It may make them liberal, but what if that person wants to challenge something that is actually quite "liberal" in nature? Like my professor who challenged us to consider whether or not tariffs were worth it, despite the protection of jobs.

    He's pretty liberal on that belief. But is he leftist? Not by a long shot.

    Yes, semantics are tiring. But they are important if we are to truly look at these schools and give them some sort of "label."
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