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05-13-2008, 09:20 PM
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#241 | | Member
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| Vastly Overrated: Penn, WUSTL
Slightly Overrated: CalTech
Slightly Underrated: Cornell, Brown, Tufts, Dartmouth, Columbia
Vastly Underrated: Georgetown, Berkeley, UC Davis |
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05-13-2008, 09:22 PM
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#242 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: In a dream
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| ^^People SHOULD have the right to talk up their own school. Or even talking up other schools, for that matter, if they have a good reason to back up their claim. But saying that a school that you have no connection to is "overrated" is both rude and arbitrary. |
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05-13-2008, 09:43 PM
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#243 | | Member
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| ^^
That's true.
In my PERSONAL experience (having only attended two schools), I found Harvard to be somewhat overrated and Cornell to be somewhat underrated (probably deserves to be solidly in 6-10).
I don't know where I would personally rank Harvard. It's so divinely ordained, it's hard for anyone to imagine it anywhere outside the top three. I was just quite let down based on my personal experience. Hopefully mine was an isolated circumstance. |
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05-13-2008, 09:57 PM
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#244 | | New Member
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| I'm not saying that just because you have connections, you can't mention a comment, but giving a pure opinion is also not the best way to go with things because many people may have different thoughts. Going by the mind itself is arbitrary as what you may think is good may be bad for another. For example, I absolutely HATE my high school (total truth), but some people just really love it. Just because some people believe it's good, it doesn't mean it applies for me. Therefore, I believe we can't use opinions as a way of saying something is overrated OR underrated. Instead, I think it's best to leave it to the rank compliers (who are suppose do this as part of their living) and see if there is a general consensus (which there generally is by rank compliers).
Otherwise, it's like choosing emotions over logic. It's like saying I believe A on question #15 is correct and therefore it MUST be correct. On the other hand, a person, who knows his stuff (like the rank compliers) and agrees with the rest of the pros, is more likely to give a logical answer rather than believing blind faith or emotions. |
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05-17-2008, 08:50 PM
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#245 | | New Member
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| This is my personal opinion! Don't get mad at me!
Overrated: HARVARD (call me crazy, but it's true!!)
Underrated: Columbia and Cornell, JHU and LACs |
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05-17-2008, 09:56 PM
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#246 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2005
Threads: 139
Posts: 2,132
| Overrated: Caltech and Princeton
Little Overrated: Penn and Chicago
Little Underrated: Michigan and Dartmouth
Underrated: Vanderbilt and Georgetown
Georgetown should be in the top 10. Before coming on this site, I thought it was slightly less presigious than Harvard LOL. |
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05-21-2008, 11:26 AM
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#247 | | Member
Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Duke!! Gender: Male
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| Overrated:Brown |
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05-21-2008, 01:40 PM
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#248 | | Member
Join Date: May 2008
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| Overrated universities:
1. WUSTL
2. Rice
3. Emory
4. Vanderbilt
5. Notre Dame
Underrated universities:
1. Cal-Berkeley
2. Michigan
3. UNC-Chapel Hill
4. Georgia Tech
5. Purdue
Overrated LACS:
1. Middlebury
2. Colgate
3. Hamilton
4. CMC
5. Colby
Underrated LACs:
1. Grinnell
2. Smith
3. Bryn Mawr
4. Macalester
5. Reed
Generally, the leading public "flagship" universities and Midwestern schools (with notable exceptions like WUSTL & Notre Dame) are underrated due to private-over-public and geographic biases among those doing the rating. |
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05-21-2008, 02:12 PM
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#249 | | Member
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| bias yourself, bclintonk...
Your overrated LACs all have conservative, preppy reps.
Your underrated LACs are liberal darlings.
Your overrated universities have student bodies much like your disliked LACs.
Guess you aren't making your determination based upon some weird academic quality issue. |
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05-21-2008, 02:16 PM
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#250 | | Senior Member
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| bclintonk,
To my knowledge, the only ones who are even given a chance to rank colleges are those in the Ivory Tower and I doubt that anyone would agree that the Midwestern publics are underrated by folks in this cloistered world.
I think what you are really saying is that measurement factors other than Peer Assessment are overrated, eg, student selectivity, faculty resources, financial resources, etc. |
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05-21-2008, 02:29 PM
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#251 | | Member
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| I think what you are really saying is that measurement factors other than Peer Assessment are overrated, eg, student selectivity, faculty resources, financial resources, etc.
Now you're catching on hawkette. :-) |
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05-21-2008, 02:44 PM
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#252 | | Senior Member
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| I didn't say I agree.
IMO, it's pretty clear that in the cosseted world of academia, the things that are valued (read: research priorities) often aren't aligned with the best interests of the undergraduate student (read: teaching focus in manageable class sizes of strong students with sizable resources to support that learning).
I also think that the for-profit world sees it like I do. |
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05-21-2008, 02:55 PM
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#253 | | Senior Member
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| Why do these threads continue to live? Sigh... We all disagree. There's no convincing others of your viewpoint. The end. |
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05-21-2008, 03:01 PM
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#254 | | Junior Member
Join Date: Jul 2007
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Posts: 248
| overrated: any ivy school
underrated: Northeastern University for sure. |
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05-21-2008, 03:04 PM
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#255 | | Member
Join Date: Aug 2004
Threads: 65
Posts: 988
| How's this?
Underrated: The school you attend.
Overrated: Any school that rejected you. |
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