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01-05-2008, 09:05 PM
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#196 | | Junior Member
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How about the ILR school at Cornell?
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01-05-2008, 11:00 PM
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#197 | | New Member
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wharton pwns all, hands down
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01-05-2008, 11:56 PM
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#198 | | Senior Member
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^^ AEM > ILR in most cases for recruiting, I believe. ILR still does pretty well though.
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01-06-2008, 12:15 AM
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#199 | | Junior Member
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would say the people who do get recruited for i-banking from cornell come from AEM or ILR?
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01-06-2008, 12:22 AM
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That's most likely AEM. I'm sure ILR people do too, but I don't think there are as many going into IB.
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01-06-2008, 12:23 AM
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but, both being Cornell, they probably both get close to the same respect from recruiters.....(?)
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01-06-2008, 12:28 AM
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It might be the tendency of AEM students to go for IB jobs, but there are definitely more AEM students doing IB than ILR ones. Recruiters may find AEM students to be more appealing because what they study might be slightly more applicable. The admissions officers have usually emphasized that AEM is very much a business program, while ILR is not as much.
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01-06-2008, 07:13 AM
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#203 | | Senior Member
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How about Cornell Arts & Sciences vs. AEM?
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01-06-2008, 12:08 PM
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#204 | | Junior Member
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This whole thread is just Hawkette making up facts. She thinks we live in an ideal world where smart kids all have equally good shots at Wall Street, regardless of where they go to college. This is wrong, we do not live in an ideal world, and Wall Street recruiting is famously narrow. Want the best shot at Wall
Street, kiddies? Go to Wharton or Harvard. Good luck getting in, welcome to reality.
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01-06-2008, 01:54 PM
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#205 | | Senior Member
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"I think we should take what he said here with a ton of salt."
SamLee, since I was part of an BB IB analyst class and you were not; where everything that I have said is true, I think I have a lot more perspective than you. I don't understand what your point is about the top 5 MBAs, but don't see how that refutes anything I've said; especially since it is all FACT.
I don't know why Colgate isn't on the WSJ survey the year they did it. I actually called them once about it, but they never called back. Maybe, it was a bad year for Colgate. They only complied it one year and I think is a good idea and wish they would do it more regularly. I certainly have come across much more on Wall St and the three years of MBA classes at my school from Colgate than most of the WSJ 35-50 schools like Trinity, Bates, Macalaster, Brandeis. I would suspect that Colgate does much worse for MD than it does for MBA or JD, but that is more intuition of what friends have gone on to do. Dealing with such small schools and doing this survey on a one year basis only does allow for huge discrepancies where a margin of a few people from one year to the next easily is going to be the difference between #38 and #58.
I just checked the alumni database again and there are more from my MBA school from Colgate than Northwestern or UMichigan not only on a relative basis, but also on an absolute basis. (Remember, this is based on the history of the school, not just one random, specific year). If you're unwilling to accept this undeniable fact, there's really nothing more I can do for you. Northwestern and UMichigan must have more than Colgate at some of the other MBA programs. I would also point you to examine Bloomberg profiles to get a more complete picture, although that too would be a tedious and inexact process; but from what I have seen, it completely jives with my historical observations.
I would agree with the above as Wharton and Harvard alone were ~ 20% of my analyst class.
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01-06-2008, 11:58 PM
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#206 | | Senior Member
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gellino,
not trying to be rude, but if colgate is that good, then why don't other people who also have IB experience, list it among the most targeted schools?
care to tell us which MBA school? i am pretty sure it's not harvard. if it's dartmouth or something, then it's possible. dartmouth's b-school, after all, wasn't ranked among the top until recently. i bet historically, very few michigan/northwestern grads would go there when they could go to michigan/chicago/northwestern unless you are talking about recent years. i bet the historical data were much more driven by geographic proximity.
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01-07-2008, 06:45 AM
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referring back to post 11, thanks davida1.
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