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Grade Inflation

collegefreak12collegefreak12 Posts: 377Registered User Member
edited April 2007 in College Search & Selection
I know this isn't something to base college pikc on, but if I like a couple equally, I guess this can be a factor. Which colleges are known for grade inflation, and which are known for grade deflation. I thought we could start a list.

Inflation:

Yale
Harvard

Deflation:

Johns Hopkins
Cornell

I listed the ones that I know. Does anyone know about Penn State, the UCs, CMU, NYU, etc. Thanks.
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Replies to: Grade Inflation

  • Erin's DadErin's Dad Posts: 19,493Super Moderator Senior Member
  • snoopyiscoolsnoopyiscool Posts: 18,082Registered User Senior Member
    Grade Deflation:
    UChicago
    Carnegie Mellon
  • SweetLax88SweetLax88 Posts: 308Registered User Junior Member
    Glad I didnt choose Hopkins...
  • collegefreak12collegefreak12 Posts: 377Registered User Member
    How is Tufts?
  • CollectivSynergyCollectivSynergy Posts: 982Registered User Member
    Grade Deflation:

    NYU Stern
  • SweetLax88SweetLax88 Posts: 308Registered User Junior Member
    Thank god I didnt choose Stern as well...
  • BIGTWIXBIGTWIX Posts: 2,440Registered User Senior Member
    super deflation would be McGill
    i heard an A- is a 3.3
    and i heard thats really hard to get
  • COlsen573COlsen573 Posts: 881Registered User Member
    ive heard that at tufts getting good grades is really difficult is that true?

    What about these others schools when it comes to inflation/deflation?

    Do LACs tend to inflate?
    Colgate U
    Cornell U
    Franklin/Marshall C
    Northwestern U IL
    Rice U
    Vassar C
    Washington & Lee U
    Whitman C
  • lolabellelolabelle Posts: 2,293Registered User Senior Member
    At Tufts, the graduating class of 2006's average GPA hovered at around 3.2, which is a solid B. Getting all A's is hard, and you have to work for it, but it's not impossible. (It's obviously harder if you're an engineering student or a pre-medical student than if you're an art history major or something.)
  • collegefreak12collegefreak12 Posts: 377Registered User Member
    Ok, a couple more...Boston College and BU. Could you guys continue the list I had set up with adding all of the colleges stated? This would be helpful. Thanks a lot.
  • willmingtonwavewillmingtonwave Posts: 3,344Registered User Senior Member
    That UChicago deflates is now a myth. Their average GPA is in the 3.2-3.3 range.
  • lolabellelolabelle Posts: 2,293Registered User Senior Member
    How about schools that are known for giving FAIR GRADES. I.e., no significant deflation nor inflation.

    I know that Tufts, Chicago, Cornell are in that group. Any others?
  • collegefreak12collegefreak12 Posts: 377Registered User Member
    How is NYU college of arts/ sciences?
  • Venkat89Venkat89 Posts: 7,327Registered User Senior Member
    Compiled by bluedevilmike for grade inflation/deflation using LSAT scores for correction.

    http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=266240&page=2
    BDM wrote:
    A little quick work on Excel can give us standard deviations below the mean for the index described above:

    (Negative numbers are grade deflated and positive numbers are inflated.)
    MIT -2.646136
    Penn -1.486136
    Carnegie Mellon Univ. -1.446136
    Johns Hopkins -1.246136
    Swarthmore -1.246136
    UC Irvine -1.046136
    Dartmouth -1.046136
    Rutgers College -1.006136
    William and Mary -1.006136
    Princeton University -0.966136
    Univ. of Chicago -0.966136
    Univ. of Michigan -0.966136
    Harvard University -0.926136
    Williams College -0.886136
    Princeton -0.806136
    Yale -0.766136
    Carleton College -0.686136
    Cornell -0.686136
    Duke University -0.686136
    Trinity College CT -0.686136
    Stanford -0.646136
    UC - Berkeley -0.646136
    Haverford College -0.646136
    Oberlin College -0.646136
    Pomona -0.646136
    Pace Univ. -0.566136
    Univ. of Virginia -0.526136
    Middlebury College -0.506136
    Rice -0.446136
    Northwestern University -0.406136
    Emory -0.406136
    Columbia Univ. - Columbia College -0.326136
    Univ. of Texas -0.286136
    Georgetown University -0.246136
    Boston University -0.206136
    Middlebury -0.206136
    UC - San Diego -0.206136
    Univ. of Michigan - Ann Arbor -0.206136
    Brown -0.166136
    Emory -0.166136
    Univ. of Notre Dame -0.166136
    Notre Dame -0.126136
    Bryn Mawr College -0.046136
    Purdue University -0.046136
    Tufts University -0.006136
    Univ. of Rochester 0.033864
    Tufts 0.073864
    Univ. of California - Los Angeles 0.073864
    Brandeis University 0.113864
    Michigan State Univ. 0.153864
    UCLA 0.153864
    Univ. of Southern California 0.193864
    Villanova University 0.353864
    Baylor Univ. 0.353864
    Univ. of Massachusetts - Amherst 0.353864
    Boston College 0.373864
    St. John's Univ.-Jamaica 2.353864
    Temple University 2.353864
    Univ. of North Texas 2.753864
    Jackson State University 3.153864

    For those looking for a more mathematical explanation (I have been PMed about this):

    Raw calculation:
    The link posted by sreis has GPA and LSAT data for all applicants from a variety of schools. Under the formula described above:
    [GPA-(LSAT-100)/20], each school was given a "raw" score.

    Mean adjustment:
    I then computed the mean (which turned out to be approximately .44) and subtracted that from each of the schools, so that the middlemost schools would get a 0, schools that were more deflated got negative numbers, and schools that were more inflated got positive numbers. (Previously, most schools had been positive.)

    SD adjustment:
    Finally, in order to get some idea of how important the variation was, I calculated the standard deviation, which turned out to be approximately .25. By multiplying all the values by 4, I converted that SD into 1. What this means is that you can instantly look at the index and see how inflated or deflated a school is relative to the mean in terms of standard deviations.

    MIT is 2.6 "standard deviations" below the mean for grade indexing by this standard, etc.

    What this is not:
    This does NOT represent any kind of grade correction. For example, it does NOT tell you how much you should add to your GPA to see what you would have gotten had you attended MIT, or Jackson State University, or whatnot. (The raw scores would have been useful for that purpose, and you can reproduce that calculation very easily using the website.)
  • AureliusAurelius Posts: 585Registered User Member
    Excellent (re)post. It helps debunk popular myths such as how Harvard is grade inflated and Cornell is grade deflated.
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