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07-03-2007, 04:32 PM
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07-03-2007, 04:53 PM
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07-03-2007, 06:25 PM
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| Update from the other thread:
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07-04-2007, 05:37 AM
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| Your method is beyond questionable, this listing is completely meaningless. If we were talking about automobiles, Ford would be ranked higher than Maserati. Amherst < Duke, Williams < Northwestern, Swarthmore < Georgetown in terms of quality, prestige and exclusivity? I have my complaints about USNews, but jeez. | |
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07-04-2007, 11:30 AM
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| googlebot, why exactly is Duke being ranked higher than Amherst so outrageous?
Even though Amherst is like 1/5 the size of Duke, Duke enrolls students with higher average SAT scores, a higher % of students in the top 10% of the class, more students going to top law/biz/med schools proportionally, and more National Merit Scholars proportionally. And of course, it has graduate programs that give it an international rep as an additional boost (though unrelated to undergrad strength).
Care to elaborate? AWS are great schools, but its absolutely not surprising to see them ranked below Ivies and Ivy-plus schools like Duke and NU. | |
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07-04-2007, 11:36 AM
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| Refer to the disclaimer in the first post and the title of this board. The purpose was not to provide an objective analysis of the colleges, but rather to find out what those on the CC boards thought about their top 10 colleges.
Your complaint is legitimate, googlebot, but doesn't address what this forum seeks to establish. | |
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07-04-2007, 12:07 PM
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| I thought we were talking about undergraduate schools? Therefore, graduate programs should play no part. Not to mention AWS represents a road less traveled for most of the country. Most of the people I've talked too never considered upper ranked LAC's. Why, perceived social drawbacks such as a drawn back sports culture, not because of the undergrad education. I think that most of these rankings as this site are just people and their need to feel special. You would never really know how to rank the schools except if you attended every one of them. | |
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07-04-2007, 12:13 PM
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| kman - you can still compare schools using objective data...and assuming social scene is the same at each one or is unimportant.
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07-04-2007, 04:38 PM
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| But the data you claim is objective isn't. SAT's don't mean anything because schools like Stanford and Amherst could accept students with higher SAT's but choose not to because SAT's are not tell-all. And smaller schools like AWS attract a different type of student - I would argue more intellectual candidates and fewer I might as well apply to Harvard ones, though that is beside the point. So acceptance rates aren't comparable either. | |
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07-04-2007, 04:57 PM
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07-04-2007, 11:27 PM
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| google_bot, I mentioned SATs, Class Rank, National Merit Scholars, feeder rates into top professional schools - If none of those things matter, so be it, I was just trying to explain why its not shocking AWS are lower on the list than some other schools. Btw, I agree the goals of LACs and Uni's are different, but they both try and get the brightest students either way. | |
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07-05-2007, 05:44 PM
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| You're right, I'm just against ranking colleges when the ranking has nothing to do with the quality of education you receive at them. What's the point? (Seriously, if anyone has a good answer I'd like to hear it.) These rankings just encouraging students to make poor decisions. | |
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07-05-2007, 05:45 PM
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| ^^ these aren't "rankings" they are just people's personal opinions | |
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07-05-2007, 06:10 PM
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07-05-2007, 09:34 PM
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| Thethoughtprocess, Dooks sat 25th-75th according to us news 1360-1540. amherst 1350-1560. How is the dook avg better? also for those who argue all about name rec and prestige ur argument is bogus. Why does a name meen someone will get a better edu. I think u can get as good an edu if not a better one at a liberal arts school like amherst or williams compared to yale or harvard. The kids are still going to be smart, the teachers are still going to be good, ull still have plenty of resources AND smaller classes. So big time researchers arent all coming to lacs, but how often is that going to play into ur undergrad edu at a major university. I bet, though i dont know, that it makes little difference whos doin research at ur major university because i doubt ull interact with them regularly, if at all. LACS deserve more respect. Also, gtown should not even be close to this high on the list and washu gets dissed so much on this site. I also dont see how those service academys r on here but whatev. This list needs more than just 4 lacs. | |
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