Misty_Rain217

If anyone remembers from a few past posts I have made on here I do not have the best relationship with my college advisor. I do not wholly trust him or understand perspective. I have tried my best but I want some other opnions. I do not really know my chances at any of my schools since no one has responded to My Chances post really, but generally do I have a really reachy list(for me, I am nothing compared to you guys) and need to add safety schools or is it the opposite? Or is it perfect? I am basically done with my applications but I want to be prepared.

List
-Hendrix
-Guilford
-Goucher
-Mount Holyoke
-Cornell College
-Beloit
-Lawrence
-Sweet Briar
-Carroll(already accepted in, and with merit scholarship)

I think that is it. Please respond

DSC

We need to know your stats tyo judge how reachy it is.

MD_Mom

You can look up the score ranges here to see how you stack up.
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midwesterner

With the big span in your ACT scores, it's hard to know how an admissions committee will feel about your application. From what I know of the schools on your list, you are just right - you picked a nice range of schools, they all have a strong Liberal Arts focus, and high acceptance rates at the majority of the schools should give you several options come April.

Misty_Rain217

What do you mean about a big span in my Act scores? In general that is how my talents lie and despite working for a couple years I was unable to afford any tutoring and I took it only once.
Personally, my Sat scores were worse and I was told to not submit them.
800CR, 650 Writing, 10 Essay, and then a 450 on the math. This is also a bad thing since I took two SAT IIs and I can't send them now. 800 on US History and a 790 on World History(did not even take the class).
The reason is I am so confused is that my original college given to me by my CC is
Bard
Carleton
University of Chicago
Goucher
Guilford
Earlham
Beloit
Bryn Mawr
Mt Holyoke
Whitman
Lawrence
Hendrix
He is really pressuring me to apply to more of these schools and in the end I do not get why. They are not realistic reaches at all. And thinking about Goucher is a major reach for me as well. I just do not get it. I wish someone here could explain.

DSC

Why can't you send the SATII's? Just send them, they will add them to your file.

HSN

She can't send her SAT II's because then they'll see her SATs, am I right, MistyRain217? Man, your non math scores are so high, it's a shame they can't see them. Are there any extenuating circumstances why it's so low, a learning difference or a gap in your curriculum that could be explained?

Misty_Rain217

HSN-yeah you are right. My cc said a 21 in math looked better than a 450 on the SAT.
My whole I have just been awful at math. My GPA would be so much higher if my math grades were not included. I do the homework meet with the teacher three times a week, and do everything I am suppose to do. I think it is because when I was younger I never got a really foundations in the basics, like sometimes a simple problem with fractions can throw me off. A basic math assignment can take me two to three hours. This year I was suppose to take precalculus but I knew I could not deal with it, so I am taking a discrete math and than a statistics course. To colleges I know it does not look good especially since my school offers 7 to 8 AP courses with them being focused on math.
I am better at logic and applying math to more real world problems, I am getting a A- this semester in math and maybe if I can a A.

jazzymom

The list you posted is not too reachy imo. I think you underestimate how impressive 800 CR, 800 U.S. History and 790 World History scores will be to colleges looking for talent in that area. Your combined CR and M score of 1250 puts you in the 50th percentile range of many colleges. That includes Goucher, which I see as a match, not a reach. Goucher's 25th-75th percentile SAT scores were listed as 1090-1300 in usnwr's 2008 edition, which puts you at the high end of the 50th percentile. Bryn Mawr is closer to a match than reach too, with a 50th percentile range of SAT scores listed as 1200-1420. (And don't forget that that means that 25 percent of students at the college had combined CR and M scores of below 1200.)

It's okay to have some reachy reaches on your list, so why not apply to UChicago and emphasize your strength in history rather than your weakness in math. Ditto Bard and Carleton. I think you should send the SAT scores as well as the ACT scores, otherwise the adcoms will not get a full picture of your potential in the areas of your greatest strength. Your GC did a good job suggesting a range of colleges that allow for reaching for the stars but having good back ups as well.

2331clk

I agree with ^^.

I would send the SAT's. Your total of 1250 really doesn't mean anything as a single number; in your case it can't be compared to a typical 1250. I'm thinking you'll be viewed as a person very talented in the important CR who happens to have a problem with math. So what if you're not good in math? You don't have to major in it! That's a great thing about college...for the most part, take what interests you. I'm going to hope and assume any admissions person will see you in this positive light. Plus then they'll see your impressive SAT IIs.

I think you'll find plenty of schools interested in someone who scores 800 verbal. If you can put together outstanding essays, even UChicago could be possible imo.

midwesterner

I agree with the others who say to send the SAT scores. It is unusual to have such a gap between CR and Math scores, but, as you say, that is who you are! The great thing about college is that you need only take another course or two in math and science, and then you are done. My son, who is your opposite, strictly a math-and-science guy, has raised his GPA by almost half a point from HS because he no longer has to endure writing courses.

I think most schools will see that you are a very intelligent person, and one who is destined for success. If there are schools that "weed out" based on a single low SAT score, so be it. Most of the schools you have listed are much more open minded than that.

momstl4

You should really consider sending your SAT and SAT II scores. Yes, the math section is low, but the others are outstanding. Also, if you are currently getting an A in math, you may want to ask your math teacher for a recommendation to send to the colleges that you are applying to. You have made a good selection of colleges. Good luck and try not to stress yourself out so much that you don't enjoy the rest of your senior year.

nyc

I agree regarding the general strength of your SAT composite score - - but b/c math grades dragged your gpa down, the lower gpa may bump some of the shs on your list into the "reach" category. Also, despite the composite, some of the more compet LACs/unis may pref candidate w/ more evenly developed skill sets (in which case lopsided sub-scored may be a problem).

But even w/ that, your list is a good combination of reach/match schs.and even a couple of safeties.

Good luck!

Misty_Rain217

I just wanted to thank everyone who responded to my post! Your comments made my day! I thank you for all your advice but unfortunately several schools have contacted me telling me my admissions file is complete and is being reviewed right now so I cannot sending anything more. Also, I am personally paying for all my application fees, and the sending of my test scores. I have sent out already all my ACT scores, and though I talked to my CC, he still thinks I should not send the other test scores I have.
I wanted to say also I got accepted to Guilford!!!!!!! Which I am very happy about!

In case anyone else responds, I did want to put my GPA in context of my school. Though it is the standard 4.0 scale with a chunck of deflation I wanted to give you some examples of some fellow friends who go to my school. Students who are applying to top notch schools only have GPAs of 3.10, 3.35, 2.98, 3.07, and the three people who are applying to Yale early decision-3.50, 3.56, 3.59. A 3.59 is the highest any has in my grade. For my examples I choose people who had a similar hard course load as I do, so you can see then. Also, more than half my grade has less than a 3.0 and they all go to 4 year colleges.

Thanks again