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Old 06-06-2012, 12:17 PM   #136
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hendrix is one of the coolest up and coming places anybody not hung up on ivies could want to go!
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Old 06-06-2012, 12:47 PM   #137
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My favorite college pretty much was a safety college. I loved the campus, the town, the programs, and the people. And because it was safety-level I got into the honors college, barely stressed when applying, and I am still going to a school I love at a very reasonable in-state tuition rate.

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Old 06-18-2012, 07:32 AM   #138
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David -- It's always good to hear from a student who is happy where he is, especially if he's not going into massive debt to get a good education!
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Old 07-13-2012, 10:24 PM   #139
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The only flaw with the original post's argument is that rules 1 and 2 are incompatible.
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Old 07-14-2012, 01:40 AM   #140
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The only flaw with the original post's argument is that rules 1 and 2 are incompatible.
You mean these?

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1) is pretty much certain to admit the applicant, based on its known behavior in acting on recent admission applications,

2) has a strong program in an area the applicant is interested in,
Are you saying that there are no applicants who can find schools that meet both 1 and 2?
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Old 07-14-2012, 03:42 PM   #141
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What About Alternatives Abroad?

Just thinking,,,yes lots of disappointments after colleges hit the jackhammer and decide on who to admit and who not to.
So you are left somewhere hanging in the balance. But instead, instead of selecting a safety college that might not fit the standards or industry recognition of your preferred choices...

...what about you also research on and apply to equally competent colleges abroad on your subject of interest. Let's say, for exemplary purposes, that student A wishes, and has applied for, an arts related bachelors degree at the Rhode Island School of Design. While student A waits patiently to see whether RISD will accept him/her, a thoroughly simple online search could yield The Media Design School in Auckland, New Zealand, as yet another industry recognized university for a bachelor of art and design degree. So if RISD rejects the application, why not just fly to NZ, earn your degree in still a competitive institution and get backs with tons of exposure, new outlook and insight?
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Old 07-16-2012, 11:11 AM   #142
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^^^ Sure check out NZ and options in Canada too.

But can you get there from here for less than $2,000 r/t?
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Old 07-27-2012, 03:56 PM   #143
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Rules 1 and 2 can be compatible if you extend the definition of 1 to include match schools or if you decide on the (somewhat risky) course of action of switching majors once accepted.
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Old 07-27-2012, 04:14 PM   #144
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Match schools are not safeties. And if selection of major makes a difference in admission selectivity, it is likely that changing major after enrolling requires a competitive application process.

But it should be possible for many students to find schools that they have assured admission to and affordability of as well as strong degree programs in their majors.
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Old 07-27-2012, 07:52 PM   #145
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I know they aren't; that's why I mentioned extending the definition.
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Old 08-07-2012, 01:36 PM   #146
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It is critical that applicants pick "safety" schools because you just don't know where you'll get accepted. I got a 4.3 gpa and a 1830 on the SAT and I was rejected by UC Berkeley, UCLA, and UCSD. Although UC Irvine and UC Davis weren't my top choices, I'm glad I applied because I would've been stuck going to a junior college. I can't stress enough how important it is to do well on the SAT...I think that's where I was lacking.
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Old 09-14-2012, 07:58 PM   #147
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This is an extremely important step when applying to colleges. To anyone applying: TALK TO AN ADVISOR/COUNSELOR to figure out which is your safety, match and reach schools. I ended up spending hundreds of dollars more than I had to on safety school applications merely because I couldn't figure out which were my safeties, matches or reaches. Some that I thought were reaches (Berkeley, Cornell, Dartmouth etc.) were actually matches. Some that I thought were matches (UC Los Angeles, UC San Diego) I later realized were actually my safeties. Like a dork, I only talk to a school advisor about this after I sent in my apps. We all know that apps are super expensive right now -- no point in spending more money than you have to!
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Old 10-07-2012, 01:45 AM   #148
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How many safeties should a student ideally apply to? I can't decide between some!
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Old 10-07-2012, 02:11 AM   #149
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You only need one safety, if you are 100% sure of admission, 100% sure that it is affordable, 100% sure that it is academically and otherwise appropriate, and 100% sure that you like it. Some students apply to only one college total after finding that their first choice is a safety for them.

But it is common to have more than one, in case a safety is not as safe as estimated, or in case one changes mind about how desirable various schools are.
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Old 10-14-2012, 08:02 PM   #150
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I disagree completely
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