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05-10-2008, 03:15 PM
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#46 | | Senior Member
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| You guys, this is just out there to provide a sample of what rankings would look like if done from an alternative point of view. The sources aren't perfect, but then again, they aren't claiming to be. Things like student happiness can't be measured scientifically, so finding a completely perfect scientific source would be impossible.
Some people are far too easily offended...by rankings of all things! | 
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05-10-2008, 04:21 PM
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#47 | | Senior Member
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| xiggI,
Ah, a point on which we can disagree. Rhodes, Marshall, Truman etc. measure performance at top levels. Fullbright, although it emphasizes more diverse backgrounds and does not have the strict academic achievement gating factor, also recognizes achievement, albeit of a different nature.
These things count, and definitely matter on a resume later in life, AND, they measure student achievement, an output, unlike Nobel Prizes, which relate to faculty. | |
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05-13-2008, 07:37 PM
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#48 | | Junior Member
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| Forbes rankings rock the USNews boat
In the May 19 issue, Forbes looks at a new way to evaluate colleges by assessing the quality of results- success of graduates, their assessment of the college experience, etc...
The biggest surprises are with the LACs. Middlebury drops to 28 versus 5 in USNews, Reed climbs to 12 from 54, Barnard to 8 from 30.
Here is the link: How to Choose a College - Forbes.com
Will this become a yearly event, and give USNews some competition? | |
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05-13-2008, 07:39 PM
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#49 | | Junior Member
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| Haha dude I hope so. USNews is such a farce. | |
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05-13-2008, 07:52 PM
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| rankings are not worth the paper they are printed on. | |
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05-13-2008, 08:16 PM
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#51 | | Junior Member
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| Brandeis over Berkeley? Whatever. | |
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05-13-2008, 08:19 PM
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#52 | | Junior Member
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| I think the Forbes method is better than the US NEWS's.
Here is the complete national university list How to Choose a College - Forbes.com | |
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05-13-2008, 08:26 PM
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#53 | | Junior Member
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| These rankings suck, they use ratemyprofessors.com.......the only professors with high marks are hte easy ones, and whos who...JOKE | |
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05-13-2008, 08:33 PM
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#54 | | Junior Member
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| A thread about this was already started by the way, but anyway, these rankings will not give U.S. News a run for their money or be published annually probably. U.S. News's methodology, whether you like it or not, is built on a pretty strong statistical foundation. What Forbes has put out is simply hodge podge. Their sources are laughable and the statistics just aren't there. | |
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05-13-2008, 08:35 PM
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#55 | | Member
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| Wake forest over UCLA??? Brown over Stanford and Caltech???? Samford over Berkeley and UCLA?????????? Boston college over University of Michigan????????
This is the most east coast biased anti public school ranking I've ever read. The only public school that's ranked around where it should be is University of Viriginia, which is *gasp* on the east coast!! All of the others are remarkably underrated. I'm sure every sane person on these boards would put schools like UC Berkeley, UCLA, and Michigan in the same tier as Virginia, if not in a higher one.
Even though US news has the same problem (under-rates public schools, has a bias for the east coast) Forbes takes it over the top. I honestly cannot see anybody taking these rankings seriously, unless they go to wake forest and want an ego boost. | |
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05-13-2008, 08:39 PM
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| thats a big joke- alabama is in no way shape or form better than lehigh, USC etc- not better programs, facilities, students, professors, advising, courses, ability to train you for life- nothing is better at alabama than those schools
sorry for hating on alabama but im mostly hating on forbes | |
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05-13-2008, 08:39 PM
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| Placing SMU anywhere in the top 20 ruins the list. You can complain about USNWR, at least all the rankings are semi logical. | |
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05-13-2008, 08:42 PM
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| Oh right, I forgot about USC. Another drastically under-rated west coast school (how on earth could Boston university be ranked above it???? Oh of course!!!!!! BU is on the EAST COAST!!)
The list is totally bogus. A more accurate title would have been "How to Choose a college if you want an expensive education on the east coast" | |
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05-13-2008, 08:55 PM
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#59 | | Member
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| So bogus, how is it possible that Auburn is better than UCSD, or that Kansas State is better than RPI and Rutgers, or Fordham being better than USC, Boston College better than MIT, UPenn, Cornell, Hopkins, Tufts, Georgetown, Berkeley, WashU, and Samford over Vanderbilt...USNWR is far from perfect but these rankings are just atrocious. | |
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05-13-2008, 09:24 PM
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#60 | | Junior Member
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| Does Forbes actually expect people to take its rankings seriously?
I mean, COME ON. This is such a JOKE! | |
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