How do people view University of Michigan??? against other universities - Page 9

barrons · 05-12-2008, 04:10 PM

Here it is on Schedule D, P4. UM Hospitals show revenues of nearly $2.2 Billion all of which comes from hosptial and doctor revenues. the net profit is about $50 Million that goes back into their reserves to pay for capital upkeep, etc.

http://sitemaker.umich.edu/obpinfo/f...aasum_fy08.pdf

vc08 · 05-12-2008, 06:03 PM

OP:

I think it's imperative to point out that in "the real world," employers really have no idea that BC has a 30 point advantage over Michigan on the SAT. Nor will they know that it has 19 NSA faculty members. And, they really won't care that they have a 47% admit rate (which shows how great the school really is, if it can be that good with that great of an admit rate). Likewise, I'm sure many of them can't even point out Lehigh on a map (no offense intended). On the west coast they sure as heck can't.

To pull a line from A Beautiful Mind, "What they want are results: publishable, applicable results." And, in this context, Michigan fails no one. It is an excellent academic institution with amazing tradition.

Anyone who judges their strength based on a minute difference in SAT or admission rate simply has no clue what they're talking about. Since they won't be running a company anyway, you shouldn't worry about that.

You know what you should do is ask this on the parent forum. See if the businessmen there know the SAT, GPA, and admit rate differences. See if they care. If they do, fine, prove me wrong. But while you're at it, ask them what they think of Michigan alums. Are they simply "football-crazed morons," or are they educated individuals who had the guts to pass up smaller, more "selective" schools for the challenge of standing out in a big class?

Michigan, Berkeley, UVA and UCLA are different in one big way: their students aren't afraid of a challenge, of making it on their own. Because in that thing called "the real world," nothing is going to hold you by the hand and lead you to the promised land. Not even a 30 point difference on the SAT.

rjkofnovi · 05-12-2008, 06:46 PM

Well said vco8.

sharkiez · 05-12-2008, 08:25 PM

Bravo!!!!!

hoedown · 05-13-2008, 08:35 AM

Which brings us back to: what was hawkette talking about?

yesnomaybeso7 · 05-13-2008, 03:24 PM

I think of it as expensive

Pizzagirl · 05-13-2008, 03:34 PM

"To pull a line from A Beautiful Mind, "What they want are results: publishable, applicable results." And, in this context, Michigan fails no one. It is an excellent academic institution with amazing tradition.

Anyone who judges their strength based on a minute difference in SAT or admission rate simply has no clue what they're talking about. Since they won't be running a company anyway, you shouldn't worry about that.

You know what you should do is ask this on the parent forum. See if the businessmen there know the SAT, GPA, and admit rate differences. See if they care. If they do, fine, prove me wrong. But while you're at it, ask them what they think of Michigan alums. Are they simply "football-crazed morons," or are they educated individuals who had the guts to pass up smaller, more "selective" schools for the challenge of standing out in a big class?"

Great post, and I'd also add: And ten minutes after you've said, "Thank you for the job offer; I'll see you on Monday," where you went won't matter at all. You'll be judged on who you are and your own capabilities, not the name on your diploma. And on how well you get along with people, and having humility instead of arrogance. Someone going to U Mich has nothing to be ashamed of. Their graduates hold their own in many fields.

vc08 · 05-13-2008, 05:56 PM

^^true that. great edit

nesh1080 · 06-04-2008, 04:55 PM

are you kidding guys? Michigan is less selective than BC/NYU...kids at my school who weren't very impressive got wait listed or rejected at BC/NYU but accepted at Umich. Honestly, Michigan is incredibly overrated. In my opinion, it's on par with NYU and BC.

barrons · 06-04-2008, 04:59 PM

So what? It has a worldclass faculty and facilities BC/NYU can't touch.

sakky · 06-04-2008, 07:07 PM

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Michigan, Berkeley, UVA and UCLA are different in one big way: their students aren't afraid of a challenge, of making it on their own. Because in that thing called "the real world," nothing is going to hold you by the hand and lead you to the promised land.

Ha! Are you trying to say that certain schools that do hold your hand (like a certain one in Palo Alto) don't produce competent grads that are prepared for the real world? Seems to me that the grads from that school are a highly competent and successful lot, having served as the foundation of Silicon Valley, which is arguably the most savagely competitive business environment in the world.

TourGuide446 · 06-05-2008, 12:23 AM

When my family moved from Michigan to Massachusetts, people asked my father if there were still buffalo and Indians roaming the plains there. There's no way in hell that most Northeasterners think there is much brainpower west of Philadelphia and east of Los Angeles.

Alexandre · 06-05-2008, 12:52 AM

That's natural Tourguide, and it is not merely the case in the East or West coast. This limited attitude is part of human nature. The only cities on the coasts where Michigan has a strong following at DC and NYC on the East Coast and LA and SF on the West Coast.