rappoltpierre

i applied to university of minnesota for fall 09 anyone think i'll get in?

also my uncle who lives in london told me i should apply to some schools there because they really only care about test scores. does anyone know about admissions in the uk?

bomgeedad

You cannot get into any UC with 2.3 GPA. You may get in some CSU if you took the right classes. Really the best bet is 2 yr community college and transfer.

liek0806

attend community college, thats your only bet. you're lucky you're in cali and you have the uc's to transfer to. but the minute you screw up at a CC no more going back, so you better be serious about your education because CC is your last shot at getting into a really good school. USC, is a school that allows you to transfer in without ever looking at your hs record, but you have to have at least 30 units completed.

ChaiMex

How could you let your self go down like this?
argh, it makes me mad that you do this to your self...
Schools don't care what your IQ is if you have a 2.3 gpa. In fact, it might make the situation worse since they see you're smart but just don't have the initiative to try.
I'm sure there many not so smart (not dumb... but just not the brightest of the bunch...they're smart but not towards th top) people who try hard and because of that it makes them look like a genius. Some of these kid go to the ivy schools. on the same token, i bet there many smart 160 IQ kids who drop out.
What you've done to yourself, like others have said, doesn't shut out your life. But you are screwed, face the facts. there is nothing you can do to change that fact... like I said. your best bet you be schools like University of the Pacific and Howard University... which aren't ivy but they're better then community college.
even then some...

middsmith

99% of students top UCs are in the top 10%. Again, even with 2400, you're out of luck at top UCs.

MidwestMom2Kids_

You are likely to be able to get into a regionally known 4-year liberal arts college if you want to try a traditional undergraduate experience. You will need to convince them that you will be a reliable student. I think this is possible.

Even now, in California, the Space Availability Survey shows openings for undergraduates at Notre Dame de Namur for example. I know a student who had an abysmal GPA and a excellent standardized test scores who was accepted and is doing all right at the College of St. Scholastica in Minnesota.

Look at the Universities - Master's regional rankings in US News, and within those, look at colleges that are ranked well academically but not the most selective.

Iirokotree

i don't understand

you didn't work hard in high school, you didn't care about school AT ALL. Why are you trying to go to college now? Do you want us to take pity on you for not working and now you have nowhere to go? I don't mean to be rude, but the SAT is only part of the application process. If I was you i'd spend some time in a community college and re evalute whether college is actually the answer. It's one thing to have worked hard and then STRUGGLED in high school. It's another to not care. However here are some schools that have 100% acceptance rate and just as high

School Percent
Boston Architectural College 100
Boston Conservatory 100
CUNY–Medgar Evers College * 100
Glenville State College (WV)* 100
Golden Gate University (CA) 100
Lake Erie College (OH) 100
Mountain State University (WV) 100
Shawnee State University (OH)* 100
Southern Nazarene University (OK) 100
University of Louisiana–Monroe * 100
Southern Arkansas University * 99.93
Cameron University (OK)* 99.86
Montana State University–Billings * 99.53
Freed-Hardeman University (TN) 99.42
Hilbert College (NY) 99.29
Grand View College (IA) 99.28
University of Texas–El Paso * 99.13
Missouri Southern State University * 98.98
York College (NE) 98.98
Northwestern Oklahoma State University * 98.97
CUNY–College of Staten Island * 98.94
University of Montana–Western * 98.8
Tabor College (KS) 98.59
College of Visual Arts (MN) 98.57
Wayland Baptist University (TX) 98.31
North Central University (MN) 98.1
Auburn University–Montgomery (AL)* 98.01
Washburn University (KS)*

Also, note i have no pity for you at all. but good luck on your college search

MidwestMom2Kids_

If you are a West Coast person who wants to stay on the West Coast, the University of Portland is an example of what I was talking about:
Some of the Colleges That Change Lives (CTCL) might be possibilities. These would be definite possiblities if you have a gap year full of life-enhancing experiences and can write about this in your application essays.

MidwestMom2Kids_

Not true. But a community college is your best bet if you are not sure if you can switch gears and become a more reliable student.

yesnomaybeso7

The college admissions people will probably see you as a very intelligent person who is very lazy or has a mental condition. Some will want you and some won't.

mrego

What major were you thinking of?

There are still some rolling-admissions schools that you could still apply to for this fall. Perhaps New Mexico Tech?

I am sure people here could make a list for you.

JP_Omnipotence

You cannot get into Cal through test scores alone. I know plenty of people with very good SAT scores (2340, 2320) who were rejected by Cal and UCLA because the rest of their app wasn't that strong (though still much much stronger than yours).

And honestly, if you didn't care enough about school to put any effort into it, why do you suddenly care about college? Does this situation really come as a surprise to you? If you do want to correct your mistakes, my advice would be to go to community college then transfer. Though really, community college isn't any more stimulating than high school. If you didn't succeed there, you probably won't succeed at a CC.

tokenadult

Who is paying your bills? What do they think?

Schmoomcgoo

I also wonder why you want to go to college... but I'm posting to say that I think you definitely should NOT retake the SAT. Retaking it negates the "I didn't prepare" factor by virtue of having taken it once already. A single sitting with a 2240 (or whatever it was), IMO, stands out more than a 2400 on a subsequent attempt.

tokenadult

Colleges have given up trying to distinguish one-time test-takers from two-time or three-time or even four-time test-takers, because that wasn't useful information to the colleges. There are a number of reasons for that.

1) The colleges have utterly no way of knowing who spends all his free time practicing taking standardized tests and who takes them "cold."

2) The colleges are well aware that students who have actually taken the tests sometimes cancel scores, so they have little incentive to give students bonus consideration if the students submit only one test score.

3) The colleges are aware that students who take the admission tests at middle-school age, who are numerous, do not have their earlier test scores submitted by default.

SAT Younger than 13

Hoagies' Gifted: Talent Search Programs

Duke TIP - Interpreting SAT and ACT Scores for 7th Grade Students

4) Colleges are aware that the majority of students who take the SAT at all take it more than once.

http://www.collegeboard.com/prod_dow...rageScores.pdf

5) Colleges are in the business of helping students learn, and they don't mind students taking efforts to improve their scores. They know that students prepare for tests.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/19/ed...gewanted=print

Colleges treat applicants uniformly now by considering their highest scores, period.

A Retake on How Many Times to Take the SAT or ACT

http://www.admissions.college.harvar...deApplying.pdf

In the context of this thread, the SAT score paired with the OP's grades will spell L-A-Z-Y to any college admission office. Some colleges may believe that he can turn around his work habits, but most colleges don't need to take the chance on someone with a 2.3 high school grade average, because these days most students have considerably higher grade averages coming out of high school.