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05-11-2008, 10:31 AM
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| Number 1 University for Neuroscience?? What is the number 1 university in the USA for neuroscience??
preferably, id like the university to also have good premed advisory/courses as well...
Fundamentally, im just looking for which university is the best for this major..
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05-11-2008, 10:33 AM
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05-11-2008, 10:55 AM
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| These are graduate school rankings from 1994 (!) and will tell you almost nothing about the education you will receive at the undergraduate level (except that if you go to one of the better ones, you will be competing with some of the best graduate students in the country for scarce research opportunities.) |
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05-11-2008, 11:01 AM
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| There's a correlation between undergraduate and graduate success in a particular field, mini. And with the time that the top universities have been around, do you really think 13 years is going to make that much of a difference? A little, but not a lot. (Fortunately, new NRC rankings come out this fall, however.) For the most part, the NRC rankings will give you a roughly accurate picture of who's on top for neuroscience. And to assume that at the top universities, there will be little room for research because of graduate students is silly. The schools that top the list are rather wealthy ones in which you'll find many opportunities. |
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05-11-2008, 11:02 AM
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| At the undergraduate level? Many. Brown and Amherst are two that pop into my mind, and I'm a little too sleepy to think deeper  . |
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05-11-2008, 11:32 AM
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| "And with the time that the top universities have been around, do you really think 13 years is going to make that much of a difference?"
-- In a young field like neuroscience, a HUGE difference.
"And to assume that at the top universities, there will be little room for research because of graduate students is silly. The schools that top the list are rather wealthy ones in which you'll find many opportunities."
There is always room for the TOP students at any school. But regardless of the school, 50% of the student body is in the bottom half of the class. The question is what kind of opportunities are available for the AVERAGE student. (And at many "top" schools, because professors are paid for their research results, not for how many undergraduates work in their labs, the number of average students who get such opportunities is pitifully small.) |
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05-11-2008, 12:26 PM
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| Brown or MIT
Also, UCSD, Duke, Yale, |
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05-11-2008, 02:06 PM
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| I don't know about it being #1, but I do know that USC has a very good neuroscience department. |
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05-11-2008, 02:26 PM
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| i actually forgot to mention USC. also Berkeley, Stanford, and Caltech. |
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05-11-2008, 04:37 PM
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| How about JHU? |
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05-11-2008, 04:41 PM
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| What about it? You'll find that barely a third of the students who enter JHU thinking they are premed ever apply to medical school. The "weed out" is massive. For the top students, it is great. You need to ask yourself how good it is for the average student attending (many of whom WOULD be among the top students - with better mentoring, internships, advising, and research opportunities - had they attending a good state university). |
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05-11-2008, 04:46 PM
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| No u see, im not like the other applicants... would you like to try and find a 16 year old with a pre-med fellowship in india at one of the greatest hospitals in india... getting recommended by one of the best pediatric neurosurgeons???....
reason why i am asking why JHU, is because i am set on going into medicine, ive already been accepted into 5 year MBBS program abroad... which required age is 18 to be allowed, im an exception....
so now you have a reason to answer "How about JHU"....
im not trying to brag, but i am not here to listen to this useless BS on "thinking of applying to medicine" "weeding out applicants"... i could careless... im not entering medicine for money for fame or for prestige and respect... im entering so i can help with human medical equilibrium around the world through Doctors without Boarders....
either someone can specifically tell me if JHU has a good neuroscience program, or can tell me which university is number 1 for neuroscience and has a good medical school then post....
ive had enough of this BS people are posting... i need a straight forward answer... |
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05-11-2008, 04:49 PM
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| and i know how the medical system works in the west... i do have contacts and recommendations from professors and doctors in neurosurgery... so if i want i could just get my way in here... dont worry about it.... just like george bush did with his dad bribing the universities, this is america for you guys.... |
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05-11-2008, 04:51 PM
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| JHU has a great neuroscience program. Many of the professors that teach undergrad courses also teach and do research at the medical school. And many students do research at the medical school with professors and research there. The undergrad program is different from the one at the medical school in that it's cross-disciplinary. They give a lot of attention to the undergrads here. If you're interested: The Interdepartmental Undergraduate Neuroscience Program of Johns Hopkins University |
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05-11-2008, 05:14 PM
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| I think it is wonderful you have a strong commitment to medicine, and to the world. I hope you hold to those commitments, and they continue to motivate you. I am sure the graduate school in neuroscience is among the top programs. If you are a strong student at JHU, I'm sure you will be able to benefit from it.
I also think you will find excellent neuroscience programs at all of the better state universities, where the average JHU student (now a top student at the state u) may have even greater access to good mentoring, internships, and research opportunities.
The #1 medical school in the country in primary care practice is the University of Washington. Unless you are planning to do a specialty in something like tropical disease, you may find that the majority of Doctors Without Borders physicians have their initial training in primary care. You might ask them to find out. |
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