collegebound67

I have been trying to decide where to apply to early decision. I have narrowed it down to either Columbia or Penn. However, I am unsure whether or not I want to go to their undergraduate engineering or their arts and science program. I am strong in science and I plan on either being in business when I am older or becoming a doctor.... (probably business). I know that Penn has Wharton which is an amazing undergraduate business program but I don't believe that I can get into it.
I have heard that kids who graduate with engineering degrees make better money right out of college, and are more likely to be hired... Is this true and to what extent???
(I do not want to become an engineer but I have been told that going to an engineering program can put you in a better position for other jobs)
Also I would like to know the differences in the engineering programs in either school.
And if you believe that I should stick to the arts and science college then please explain why and which college (columbia or penn)??
Also which college has better connections in the job world??
Which college has a better party/social scene??
And any more pros or cons that you can think of to help me make my decision feel free to throw them at me.
TO SIMPLIFY: Should I go to an engineering program or an arts and science program..... and in Columbia or Penn???

Thanks for reading this... now please post your thoughts

RacinReaver

Don't do engineering. Go post this thread in the engineering subforum and I'm pretty sure everyone there will agree with me.

45 Percenter

No matter which undergraduate college you're in at Penn (i.e., College, Engineering, etc.), you can take Wharton courses.

08seniors08

Go with Arts/Sciences.
Interested in political science-esk studies = columbia
Sciences/arts = Penn

Penn's on-campus social scene > Columbia's on-campus social scene
However, NYC > Philly

If you plan on spending a lot of your time off-campus, I'd go with Columbia. If you want a more traditional on-campus college experience, go Penn.

I go to Penn and I truly regret not applying to Columbia because of it's great government studies courses. But from what I hear of the social scene at Columbia, it's not too extensive.

ilovebagels

08seniors08 makes a fair comparison. I would agree that the bottom line is Except I have no regret as Penn has been unbeatable for pursuing my interests. I think the best choice would be Penn for undergrad and Columbia for grad. Who knows, I just might wind up at Columbia in a few years...