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Barron's "Most Competitive Schools"

hurryCANEhurryCANE Posts: 52Registered User Junior Member
The Most Competitive Colleges
Amherst College
Barnard College
Boston College
Bowdoin College
Brandeis University
Brown University
California Institute of Techonology
Carleton College
Carnegie Mellon University
Case Western Reserve University
Claremont McKenna College
Colby College
Colgate University
College of New Jersey, The
College of the Holy Cross
College of William and Mary
Columbia University/
Columbia College
Columbia University/FU Foundation
School of Engineering and Applied
Science
Connecticut College
Cooper Union for the Advancement of Science and Art
Cornell University
Dartmouth College
Davidson College
Duke University
Emory University
George Washington University, The
Georgetown University
Hamilton College
Harvard College
Harvey Mudd Coolege
Haverford College
Johns Hopkins University, The
Kenyon College
Lafayette College
Macalaster College
Massachusetts Institute
of Technology
Middlebury College
New York University
Northwestern University
Oberlin College
Occidental College
Pomona College
Princeton University
Reed College
Rice University
Scripps College
Smith College
Stanford University
Swarthmore College
Tufts University
United States Military Academy at West Point
United States Naval Academy
University of California
at Los Angeles (UCLA)
University of Chicago
University of Miami
University of North Carolina at Chapel
Hill, The
University of Notre Dame
University of Pennsylvania
University of Richmond
University of Rochester
University of Southern California
University of Virginia
Vanderbilt University
Vassar College
Wake forest University
Washington and Lee University
Washington University in St. Louis
Webb Institute
Wellesely College
Wesleyan University
Williams College
Yale University
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Replies to: Barron's "Most Competitive Schools"

  • jckundjckund Posts: 680Registered User Member
    what do they base this off of? I must say, I'm surprised that some schools aren't on there and others are like Connecticut College.
  • keeferkeefer Posts: 616- Member
    UCLA is on this list and Berkeley isn't?
  • lfecollegeguylfecollegeguy Posts: 540Registered User Member
    U. Miami is not very competitive IMO.
  • zfox001zfox001 Posts: 1,212Registered User Senior Member
    competitive to get into? or competitive once you are there....like the students are very competitive with each other??
  • vienna manvienna man Posts: 884Registered User Member
    This list is so broad as to be meaningless.
  • kwukwu Posts: 4,759Registered User Senior Member
    We are first, again, by virtue of alphabetical ranking. I cannot complain. =)
  • tokenadulttokenadult Posts: 17,473Super Moderator Senior Member
    People often ask about UCLA being on this list

    Amazon.com: 2009 Barron's Profiles of American Colleges 28 Edition with CD-ROM: Barron's Educational Series: Books

    Amazon.com: Guide to the Most Competitive Colleges (Barron's Guide to the Most Competitive Colleges): Barron's Educational Series: Books

    and Berkeley not being on it. The explanation, based on the Barron's methodology, is that Berkeley's holistic review has let in more lower-ranking students into the bottom of its class than UCLA has. UCLA is now trying to change its admission policy, and may end up with results like Berkeley's. A similar outcome of the Barron's methodology ranks the various national service academies (Army, Navy, Air Force) in different selectivity categories.
  • TourGuide446TourGuide446 Posts: 3,099- Senior Member
    Who'd a thunk Miami and Lafayette were better colleges than Berkeley? Wow.
  • gellinogellino Posts: 3,017Registered User Senior Member
    This list is generally the top schools with a few inconsistencies. Lafayette, but not Bucknell and Lehigh? Colby, but not Bates?
  • tokenadulttokenadult Posts: 17,473Super Moderator Senior Member
    I think Bucknell fit the criteria, but declined to be profiled in the specialized volume on those competitive colleges.
  • gellinogellino Posts: 3,017Registered User Senior Member
    ^That seems implausible to me as the reason. Why would they do that?
  • hikidshikids Posts: 1,284Registered User Senior Member
    I would not take the list too seriously.
  • tomslawskytomslawsky Posts: 1,378Registered User Senior Member
    haha- the University of Florida and U-Miami are almost identical in admissions standards-why the gator snub?
  • sofla951sofla951 Posts: 291Registered User Junior Member
    and Berkeley not being on it. The explanation, based on the Barron's methodology, is that Berkeley's holistic review has let in more lower-ranking students into the bottom of its class than UCLA has. UCLA is now trying to change its admission policy, and may end up with results like Berkeley's. A similar outcome of the Barron's methodology ranks the various national service academies (Army, Navy, Air Force) in different selectivity categories.

    It's not as if Berkeley's SAT range has gone down since beginning holistic review, which is what most privates do also. Berkeley's SAT range is higher and acceptance rate is lower than UCLA's and many other colleges on this list. SAT range has increased since holistic review was implemented. This year it was 1300-1500. This list really doesn't make sense. I guess University of Miami is just more competitive than Berkeley.
  • DunninLADunninLA Posts: 4,267Registered User Senior Member
    tokenadult -- you explanation seems to describe a category called: what are the stats of the least impressive student admitted? I assume this could be determined by looking at the lowest stat student admitted -- 400/400/400 SAT + 2.2 gpa Football player? It is a common complaint of UCLA football fans that students deemed academically unqualified for UCLA are granted admission to Berkeley.
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