rjkofnovi

Mchigan is not in the north? My god, It's below zero outside right now and I'm not whistling Dixie!

tomslawsky

Or don't they teach geography down there in Dixie?

High school graduate in NY
College graduate from State University of New York at Oswego, which happens to actually in my opinion be a very solid school. (again, you're reading comprehension not so good?)

Graduate degrees from U- South Florida and U-Florida.

tomslawsky

Canada is in the North, too. Michigan is considered to be MidWest, though by general acceptance. And, yes, I understand the colld,I went to college on Lake Ontario.

pierre0913

what do you call the Dakotas? midwest, west, north??

rjkofnovi

As for myself, I went to college on land. Since I am a very poor swimmer, I'd say it was a good move on my part.

UCBChemEGrad

^ touche...
It's been in the 80s here all week. Although I do miss winter.

hawaiiboy15

There is about a foot and a half of snow here in Cleveland, wind chill is way below zero and nobody knows how to drive in snow.

jec7483

"As far as Penn State, the median SAT is 1195- admittedly respectable but significantly lower than GA and Florida. No one has addressed the fact that the North Eastern Schools charge more tax for less quality."

Tomslawsky,
Penn State University Park's admission only bases 1/3 of its decision on the SAT, so it's not surprising it's lower than GA or FL. The fact that PSU puts an emphasis on other things for admission doesn't make FL or GA better. Penn State outranks them both, so you can keep the higher SAT score. Plus, what do you know about the undergraduate education of a school down south? You went to college on a lake up north. Again, besides Vanderbilt and maybe Florida, the SEC is lacking in academics and doesn't measure up to the Big Ten.

SSobick

^^ excuses excuses

The only reason Penn State is ranked ahead of UF is because they have some of the most expensive in-state tuition for all publics. On the other hand UF has the least expensive for a public flagship. Watch the rankings now that UF is going to catch up to the national average in just a few years.

The quality of students are way stronger at UF in comparison to Penn State.

jotajota218

SEC in My opinion, the only worthwhile schools:
Vandy
Florida
Georgia
Tenn.

hawaiiboy15

^^
Bama, South Carolina and Auburn are also decent, a lot of people say Bama is better than UT.

sofla951

UCBchem how bout that Cal basketball team.....Montgomery might be challenging Tedford for greatness. Plus girls bball is ranked top ten, girls tennis #2, volleyball ranked #6, men's swimming and polo top ten, plus crew and rugby are always at the top. Once the athletic center is finally built I'm seeing a possible new Golden Age for Cal Athletics. Although I must say UF is still way ahead when it comes to football.

rjkofnovi

..and Cal is WAY ahead when it comes to academics.

jec7483

"The quality of students are way stronger at UF in comparison to Penn State."

I'm sorry. I can't really argue the strength of a student when the only thing that you use to describe them is by using an opinion as vague as "way stronger". I will try to respond in a way you can understand. Penn State students are like totally like way better and stronger than UF, dude. Ok, I now revise my original statement to say:

"Again, besides Vanderbilt, the SEC is lacking in academics and doesn't measure up to the Big Ten."

jotajota218

I agree jec7483. If you compare the SEC to conferences (even though they are athletic conferences) such as the Big Ten, ACC, and some of the Big East and Pac 10 schools, they are not really up to par.