Sparkeye7

^^ Not yet!! Please let me know when that will happen??

P.S. I don't like to waste my post, but I feel like I just did.

UCBChemEGrad

Jeffrey Brown is a Berkeley Classics grad...

And he is a tuition-paying parent at UVA.

Sparkeye7

^^ His wife attended the nearby George Mason U. and the family currently resides in Virgina. Otherwise, I would think that he would certainly prefer to send his kid(s) to Berkeley instead. After all, he also has a J.D. from UCB.

Jeffrey Brown | PBS NewsHour | PBS

Sparkeye7

The University of Illinois Raises Tuition, Contemplates Common App Membership

The University of Illinois Raises Tuition, Contemplates Common App Membership - Buffalo Grove, IL Patch

Catria

William and Mary
Penn State University
Rutgers University
University of Maryland
University of North Carolina
University of Virginia
University of California- Berkeley
University of California- Los Angeles
University of Colorado at Boulder
University of Washington (Seattle)
University of Illinois (Urbana-Champaign)
University of Michigan
University of Wisconsin- Madison
University of Texas- Austin

Alexandre

Catria, if you are going to include schools like Colorado, Maryland, PSU and Rutgers, you have to include many other publics, including Florida, Georgia Tech, Indiana, Minnesota, Ohio State, UCSD and several others.

JuniorMint

I skimmed the pages of this thread for a general, if not artificial, consensus.

Here is the tally with an approximate number of nominations for each school:

The 8 Public Ivies

• UCB (41)
• UVA (40)
• UNC (40)
• UCLA (37)
• UM (37)
• UW (29)
• W&M (27)
• UT (25)

The runners up: UIUC (23), UW-Seattle (18), Georgia Tech (12)

tk21769

^ The 8 "Public Ivies" seem to be, approximately, the 8 state universities with the highest USNWR rankings. Other than that, what characteristics of the 8 Ivy League schools do these 8 "public Ivies", and not other schools, supposedly emulate?

JuniorMint

You are right; it is, to me, an unfounded exercise. Lacking an athletic relationship, geographic unity, similar age (I think), proportional size, and comparable departmental depth, these Public Ivies share only public-ness. It would be equally artificial to group a Super Eight of non-Ivy privates. One could even scramble up eight international "Ivies", including schools such as Oxbridge or IIT.

Your question raises a good point. These publics share one quality with the orignial Ivies: they offer, supposedly, the same quality of top education. I do not know how one would go about determining that, because the same non-comparisons always arise: graduate vs. undergrad, STEM vs. LA, small vs. large.

That the eight seem to be the highest ranked public schools is not surprising, though. The original Ivies are still in the top twenty, although their rankings fluctuate. I am a high school student, so I can't comment on what the USNWR, or any list, is ranking, but I do know that it is entertaining and rather satisfactory to observe.

informative

LOL, there is no such thing as a public Ivy. There are no public schools in the Ivy League, and one of the key things that characterizes an Ivy League school is that it is a private university.

JuniorMint

Exactly!

angelsndemons

i agree ^^ right there

barrons

Actually as to "comparable departmental depth" the Public Ivies probably have more in common than the Ivy League schools which range widely in both depth and breadth.

JuniorMint

^True, I did not intend to imply that.

I wonder if UCB has more in common with W&M than Cornell has in common with Dartmouth?

UCBChemEGrad

^ Looks like it from here:
Best Undergraduate Teaching | Rankings | Top National Universities | US News

1. Dartmouth/ Princeton
3. Miami-Oxford
4. Brown/ Yale
6. W&M/ Michigan
8. Berkeley/ Duke/ Chicago/ Maryland-Baltimore County/ Notre Dame
13. North Carolina/ Wake Forest
15. Stanford