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04-21-2009, 11:44 PM
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According to USNews, ha:
UCB
UVA
UCLA
Michigan-AA
USC
UNC-CH
W&M
Wisconsin-M
GTech
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04-21-2009, 11:48 PM
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UCB is right. Berkeley really is top notch academically.
| Well, academically, Berkeley is no doubt comparable to HYPSM.
My list, however, includes a combination of several factors that undergrad students may think are also important.  | |
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04-22-2009, 12:37 AM
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north face, assuming you're talking about Southern Cal, USC isn't a public school.
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04-22-2009, 03:07 AM
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all are close regionally, and could participate together in sports.
| I like this comparison as the Ivy League is a sports league. But how would the other six UC's compete with UCB and UCLA in sports?
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04-22-2009, 04:58 AM
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There is no SUNY school that should be rated a 'public ivy'. There are some programs that certain SUNY schools do extremely well, but an 'ivy' type distinction is a reach. I have visited almost all of them, known someone who has graduated from almost all of them, and graduated from one myself.
SUNY Albany does Public admin/poli sci/public affairs at a very high level. Their nanoscience program might be one of the best in the country as well..
SUNY Binghamton has a great business program..
SUNY Geneseo has been ranked in Kiplingers 'best value' list for years, their faculty is 90% PhD, and it is notoriously difficult to graduate from..
SUNY Stony Brook has great science programs..
SUNY Cortland has a great education program..
Too bad we couldn't roll all of these into one location.
It is a real reach to put a SUNY school into the same class as U Michigan, U Virginia, Will & Mary, UCB/UCLA, UNC, G tech... even U Florida, U Arizona, U Mass, U Illinois, U Conn
IMO
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04-22-2009, 11:28 AM
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Yes, well said, JWT.
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04-22-2009, 09:52 PM
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LOL @ UCBChemEGrad ur comparison is hilarious. Although ucr & Dartmouth are totally can not be realistically compared to each other.
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04-22-2009, 10:36 PM
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SUNY Binghamton...27,000 applications for less than 2000 spots this year. They surely consider it a Public Ivy.
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04-22-2009, 10:45 PM
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What's their expected yield?
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04-22-2009, 11:07 PM
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Is it 2,000 spots, or 2,000 acceptances? Even if it's spots, (not knowing what the yield is) it's probably a pretty competitive rate. For instance, UMinn had a record 33,000 applicants this year for 5,000 "spots," but they accept more than what the freshman class size really is.
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04-22-2009, 11:25 PM
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Bing had a ~ 7.5%- 10% acceptance rate this year. Yes, that's right.
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04-23-2009, 02:28 AM
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I never said SUNY Bingo was a bad school... and I know it is competitive to get into...
But If we are talking about Public schools with an ivy level experience... I just feel it falls short. I almost went there, have been on campus many times, and know people who graduated from there. It is a great school, and might be the best SUNY college for sure.
But U Michigan, U Virginia, UCB, UCLA, Ga Tech, UNC are in a different class of schools.
They just have more to offer their students.
Maybe some of the better SUNY schools would benefit from shedding the SUNY and just being Binghamton University, University of Buffalo, University at Albany... I know U Alb was pushing for it when I was there...
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06-24-2009, 06:42 PM
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I don't know how old your information is, but Binghamton University (UBuffalo, UAlbany and Stony Brook U) dropped the SUNY in the 90's. A lot has changed in the past 20 years. Any short list of public ivies that doesn't include Binghamton University is crazy.
Binghamton is not just dificult to get into, it's ranked #1 of all public universities for value and education by Kiplinger's for out of state students. It's ranked above real ivies Cornell and Dartmouth by Forbes. The NY Times recently quoted someone who called Binghamton "the new Harvard".
The short list of public ivies definitely includes Binghamton, UVA, W&M, UCLA, UCB. The expanded list is debatable.
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06-24-2009, 06:46 PM
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My brother goes to W&M and I've been there many times. That environment is like an ivy school that I've seen. UVA is more public in the sense that they are lenient on GPA standards, not too lenient, they bear 3.8's.
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06-24-2009, 08:47 PM
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The short list of public ivies definitely includes Binghamton, UVA, W&M, UCLA, UCB. The expanded list is debatable.
| There's no way any reasonable short list includes Binghamton but not UNC.
I still think the original "public ivy" list got it best-
W&M
Cal
UNC
UMich
Miami (OH)
UVA
UVM
UT-Austin
Top 5 Publics
Cal
UMich
UVA
UCLA
UNC-Chapel Hill
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