chris2k5

What are the public Ivy League schools? Anyone got a list?

principalviola

College of William & Mary (Williamsburg, Virginia)
Miami University (Oxford, Ohio)
Cal Berk
Cal LA
University of Michigan (Ann Arbor)
University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
University of Texas at Austin
University of Colorado at Boulder
Georgia Institute of Technology
University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
New College of the University of South Florida (Now New College of Florida)
Pennsylvania State University at University Park
University of Pittsburgh
State University of New York at Binghamton
University of Washington at Seattle
University of Wisconsin–Madison

University of Vermont (Burlington)
University of Virginia (Charlottesville)

vociferous

I think that is a pretty generous list. I hardly think the New College or SUNY Binghamton are public Ivy's as much as I value public universities

My list is:

Berkeley
UCLA
Michigan
UNC-Chapel Hill
Virginia
Wisconsin

Here_to_Help

According to Wikipedia:
Moll, who earned his Master of Divinity degree from Yale University in 1959,[3] was an admissions officer at Yale, and the director of admissions at Bowdoin College, University of California, Santa Cruz, and Vassar College.[3][4][5] He traveled the nation examining higher education and in particular, identified eight public institutions (the same as the number of Ivy League members) which he thought had the look and feel of an Ivy League university. In addition to academic excellence, other factors considered by Moll included those that were visually like an Ivy League, aged as an Ivy League, had traditions like an Ivy League, and so forth.
The original eight Public Ivies list by Moll (1985):

* College of William & Mary (Williamsburg, Virginia)
* Miami University (Oxford, Ohio)
* University of California[6]
* University of Michigan (Ann Arbor)
* University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
* University of Texas at Austin
* University of Vermont (Burlington)
* University of Virginia (Charlottesville)

Moll also offered in the same book "a list of worthy runners-up" and brief summaries of them:

* University of Colorado at Boulder
* Georgia Institute of Technology
* University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
* New College of the University of South Florida (Now New College of Florida)
* Pennsylvania State University at University Park
* University of Pittsburgh
* State University of New York at Binghamton
* University of Washington at Seattle
* University of Wisconsin–Madison

"Public Ivy is a term coined by Richard Moll in his 1985 book Public Ivys: A Guide to America's best public undergraduate colleges and universities to refer to universities which "provide an Ivy League collegiate experience at a public school price."[1] Public Ivies are considered, according to the Journal of Blacks in Higher Education, to be capable of "successfully competing with the Ivy League schools in academic rigor... attracting superstar faculty and in competing for the best and brightest students of all races.""

I really think that size and attention to undergraduate teaching wise, some of the larger research oriented universities start moving away from the "public ivy" feel.

swish14

W&M is the quintessential Public Ivy.

AT9

Here is the complete list in no particular order (from Wikipedia):

William and Mary
Penn State University
Rutgers University
SUNY Binghamton
University of Connecticut
Universty of Delaware
University of Maryland
University of North Carolina
University of Virginia
University of New Hampshire
University of Arizona
University of California- Berkeley
University of California- Los Angeles
University of California- San Diego
University of California- Davis
University of California- Santa Barbara
University of California- Irvine
University of Colorado at Boulder
University of Washington
Indiana University
Miami University
Michigan State University
Ohio State University
University of Illinois
University of Iowa
University of Michigan
University of Minnesota
University of Wisconsin- Madison
University of Florida
University of Georgia
University of Texas- Austin

31 schools in all.

RoaringMice

To me, a public Ivy would mean a school that's a public uni, which ranks with the top unis in the US, and which has a prestigious name. Thus I'd pick:

- Cornell (which, oddly enough, has some majors that NY residents get state school tuition for, and thus literally is a "public Ivy")
- UC Berkeley
- U Virginia
- UCLA
- U Michigan Ann Arbor
- UNC Chapel Hill
- UC San Diego
- U Illinois Urbana
- U Wisconsin Madison
- Georgia Tech
- William & Mary
- West Point
- Annapolis
- US Air Force Academy


I'd also add two more narrowly focused schools:

- Mass Art (one of the top art schools in the US)
- The Fashion Institute of Technology (one of the top 2 fashion schools in the world)

AT9

^ I agree with you for the most part, but I'd also expand that list a little bit to about 20 schools total.... I'd probably add UT-Austin, U of Florida, U of Washington, Penn State, U of Minnesota, and Ohio State to that list.

And I'd leave out the art and fashion schools haha.

Cuse0507

I would limit the list to the top 7 or 8 public schools; there aren't 20 schools in the Ivy League, so why should the "Public Ivy" league have a million schools in it?

My picks:

Michican
UVA
UNC-Chapel Hill
UC-B
W&M
+Service Academies

principalviola

^True...

North Carolina
Cal
College of William and Mary
Virginia
Navy
Army

AT9

"I would limit the list to the top 7 or 8 public schools; there aren't 20 schools in the Ivy League, so why should the "Public Ivy" league have a million schools in it?"

True, but the list wasn't just referring to the real Ivy league, it was also referring to Ivy-caliber schools (WUStL, Duke, Chicago, Stanford, Rice, etc...). So yeah, there aren't 20 schools in the actual Ivy league, but there are roughly 20 schools that could theoretically be in the Ivy league based on their quality. That's why I would say about 15-20, but not 7-8 or 30+.

UCBChemEGrad

Just use 8 of the UCs (sorry Merced, you're an expansion candidate; and UCSF you're just all medical)...all are close regionally, and could participate together in sports.

UC Berkeley = Harvard (complain it focuses too much on grad vs. undergrad)
UCLA = Princeton (most preppy like Pton)
UC San Diego = Yale (good poli sci)
UC Santa Barbara = Penn (good social life)
UC Davis = Cornell (agricultural school counterpart)
UC Irvine = Columbia (Irvine = NYC of master planned communities)
UC Santa Cruz = Brown (most granola, i guess)
UC Riverside = Dartmouth (isolated...only thing to do is drink)

FindAPlace

UCBChemEGrad:

Interesting way of comparing UCs to Ivies.

Question for you that we didn't have answered on our tour of Berkeley: What makes Chemistry so awesome there that they've managed to create an entire college that is one department?

Sparkeye7

These are 'my' Top-20 Public Ivies (In no particular order)

1. Indiana University
2. Miami University - Oxford
3. Michigan State University
4. Ohio State University
5. Penn State University
6. Purdue University
7. University of California- Berkeley
8. University of California- Los Angeles
9. University of Illinois
10. University of Iowa
11. University of Michigan
12. University of Minnesota
13. University of Wisconsin- Madison
14. University of Florida
15. University of Georgia
16. University of Texas- Austin
17. University of Maryland
18. University of North Carolina
19. University of Virginia
20. University of Washington

UCBChemEGrad

FindAPlace,

Berkeley's College of Chemistry also contains the Department of Chemical Engineering. It offers 3 majors: chemistry, chemical engineering and chemical biology. The chemical biology major is pretty new - it's Berkeley's undergrad biochemistry major. So, it doesn't just have chemistry.

Berkeley is renowned in chemistry - mostly due to its contribution in chemistry research discoveries (plutonium was identified in Gilman Hall (chemical engineering building), Robert Oppenheimer started the Manhattan project, Berkeleium is on the periodic table)...it's the history of these discoveries that has built its reputation and attracted new scientists and students to study chemistry at Berkeley.

The College of Chemistry is pretty small and has sort of a self-contained mini-campus that is quite unique. The newest building - across the street (Stanley Hall) is supposed to be a collaborative learning place...incorporating research teams from chemistry, biology and engineering disciplines.