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Do any out of state publics give in state tuition to Texans?

missypiemissypie Posts: 17,001Registered User Senior Member
edited October 2011 in College Search & Selection
I know that Texas publics are not the most generous to out of state students, so I doubt that there is a lot of reciprocity. Are there any out of state publics that give in state tuition to Texas students? I'm not talking about NMF type of student - just your typical top 11%/1200 (CR & math) student.
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Replies to: Do any out of state publics give in state tuition to Texans?

  • rjkofnovirjkofnovi Posts: 8,909Registered User Senior Member
    Nope. "Texas, it's like a whole 'nother country." They should be charged international fees for that slogan. Hehe.
  • FiyeroFiyero Posts: 791Registered User Member
    Yes, the University of Arkansas at Fayetteville does. Well, sort of. Out of state residents who are from states which border Arkansas (including Texas) qualify automatically for a scholarship which covers the difference in tuition between in state and out of state. You only need to have a 3.25 and a 24 on the ACT, which is not difficult at all. I understand they are trying to increase the diversity of the student body. You can take advantage of that.

    More about the scholarship offer at this link.

    Office of Academic Scholarships
  • rjkofnovirjkofnovi Posts: 8,909Registered User Senior Member
    My comments were tongue in cheek of course. Glad someone came on and stated the facts. Thanks, Fiyero.
  • Cuse0507Cuse0507 Posts: 4,519Registered User Senior Member
    Check out the University of South Carolina-if you get any sort of scholarship over $500 from them, your tuition is automatically reduced to in-state level. They are really working at recruiting OOSers.
  • midmomidmo Posts: 3,720Registered User Senior Member
    missypie, I've been hearing a lot of anecdotes for the last several years about all the Texans showing up at the University of MO (Columbia, the flagship campus). While there does not seem to be an established program for reduced OOS tuition for Texans, stories abound about how easy it is to establish in-state residency after the freshman year. I used to dismiss that as out-of-date, but I recently heard it from several more students. I don't know any details, but perhaps you can find some reliable info. somewhere on the website.
  • rsxwheeeeeersxwheeeeee Posts: 1,269Registered User Senior Member
    to add to the USC post, they want a ~3.5 and a 1250 to get in-state +2K
  • osucowboysosucowboys Posts: 613Registered User Member
    I live in Dallas and I'm going to Oklahoma State because UT's affirmative action policies kept me out. I got a full ride at OSU. I have a 3.6 gpa and made a 30 on the ACT.

    About a quarter of OSU's student body comes from the Dallas area. OU is similar.
  • DukeAlumnus2003DukeAlumnus2003 Posts: 151Registered User Junior Member
    Please explain UT's affirmative action policies "kept" you out.... (runs to grab popcorn)
  • osucowboysosucowboys Posts: 613Registered User Member
    It's called the Texas 10% rule. If you graduate in the top 10% of your graduating class, as long as your school is an accredited public high school in Texas, you are guaranteed admission to UT or A&M. 80% of UT's students are admitted for that reason. It is difficult to get into UT if you're not in the top 10% of your graduating class or if you went to a private school, or were home schooled.

    I happen to be in the top 15% of my graduating class, so I chose to not squander the $60 and applied instead at SMU, TCU, OSU, Dartmouth, and Michigan..and ended up getting the best finaid from my safety school, OSU. The reason is because of their scholarship system specifically designed to level out the difference in OOS tuition. There is no gpa requirement on this, and they start at an ACT score of 24 because every OOS applicant qualifies for something.

    24 ACT - $7,000
    27 ACT - $8,000
    30 ACT - $10,000

    You can also qualify for other performance scholarships, leadership scholarships, a $5,000 legacy scholarship, and the NMSF full ride.

    I could have gone to UT at one of the satellite campuses, and probably gotten really decent financial aid, but what's the point? I would shoot myself if I had to go to UT-SA or UT-D because I don't want to go to school in a suburb, and I really wanted to just get the full college experience. I could care less about academic prestige right now for my undergrad..in fact, probably the less the better since I'll make more impressive grades (but that's not a factor). I was really just looking for research opportunities, a good college environment, a positive Greek system, and a place where all of the students are glad to be..

    Hopefully that was worth you grabbing your popcorn.
  • DukeAlumnus2003DukeAlumnus2003 Posts: 151Registered User Junior Member
    I still am missing how "UT's affirmative action policies" are responsible for keeping you out. Are these "policies" responsible for you not finishing in the top 10% of your class? Are these "policies" responsible for your lack of confidence and decision not "squander" the $60?
  • osucowboysosucowboys Posts: 613Registered User Member
    You're missing the point, dude. I think with a 30 ACT and a 3.6 uw gpa, and EC's + athletics that compensate for being outside the top 10%, I should be able to get into my state's flagship university, but I am not top 10%. If you lived in Texas you would know that the general rule is that if you aren't top 10%, don't bother. It's a ridiculously bad system in my opinion because it lets in some of the most idiotic people that went to the worst high schools in the world and keeps out students that went to huge, highly competitive high schools both public and private.

    The affirmative action intent is admirable, but it misses the mark when it completely subverts the admissions process. The people of the Republic of Texas expect the flagship university to be available for its best students to get an education from, unfortunately, it is not completely available to all students, especially those that graduated from inferior high schools--the ones that are highly competitive.
  • osucowboysosucowboys Posts: 613Registered User Member
    DookAlumnus, you should probably leave this thread alone. The OP has the same problem. Read her post..she is asking about schools OOS that are a good deal for Texans that are in the top 11% of their graduating class. The 10% rule isn't just a problem for me. It is a broad problem that anyone outside the top 10% experiences, so belittling it as a problem is only going to make you look like an ass.

    Enjoy your popcorn though. :)
  • DukeAlumnus2003DukeAlumnus2003 Posts: 151Registered User Junior Member
    Remember this saying: "The Golden Rule in life is: He who has the gold makes the rules..."

    The system is not going to change. You may not like the rules, but you need to know how to play the game. If UT was your dream school and you knew that if you got in the top 10% of your class, you would get in, then that means you should have busted your rear end to do whatever it took to make it happen. If you got a 3.6 uw gpa, why not work harder for a 4.0?

    In time, you will grow up and learn that only you are in control of your own destiny. Only you are responsible for making your dreams happen. Blaming "the system" and affirmative action just makes you come across as spoiled, entitled, irresponsible, and lazy...

    btw, You have completely missed the boat on the intent of affirmative action, but I'm not going there...
  • coollegecoollege Posts: 964Registered User Member
    Actually it may change, because of football.

    I heard the old coots in the Texas legislature are thinking of changing the top 10% rule because legally, if you are in the top 10%, you have to let them all come in. And the UT prez says they may eventually have to cut athletics, because, well face it, most football players aren't in the top 10% in their class.


    UT president warns of consequences to automatic-admission law
  • osucowboysosucowboys Posts: 613Registered User Member
    Yeah, UT's president is always in the news complaining about the rule. I'm sure the old coots down in Austin will just make it worse though.
    btw, You have completely missed the boat on the intent of affirmative action, but I'm not going there...

    Dook, if I disagree with affirmative action, does that mean I don't understand it? I think I know what the intent is, because a long time ago there was an age (aka the 1960s) that women or blacks could not get into UT in most circumstances. It was almost like they were outside the top 10%, lol. And btw..UT is not my dream college, Michigan was. I actually grew up in a OU/UT hate-rivalry household so I'd like to avoid both of those places if at all possible..but that said, UT would have been a more convenient safety than Oklahoma State.
    If UT was your dream school and you knew that if you got in the top 10% of your class, you would get in, then that means you should have busted your rear end to do whatever it took to make it happen. If you got a 3.6 uw gpa, why not work harder for a 4.0?

    That's kind of insulting..and you're completely missing the point. Take Dook for example, as a school I could probably get into. Then take UT, a school that I'm not passionate about but wouldn't mind going to, as a school that should be a sure bet for me, but isn't. Do you even realize what this thread is about?

    I mean, not to be as offensive as you are coming off (calling me lazy, spoiled, entitled, etc), but it just bothers me that you don't know what you're talking about, don't live in Texas, and you're going to bless us with your two cents on an affirmative action policy. You refuse to accept that I'm not complaining about my own shortfalls (darn I shouldn't have played sports and been on student council and gotten an occasional B) but rather I'm just explaining the situation for the majority of Texas' most meritorious graduates.

    When you insult me by calling me entitled and spoiled for having a negative outlook on the Texas Ten Percent rule, you're insulting a lot of people, including a lot of people who have posted in this thread who also have negative outlooks. The OP (who you are also insulting) describes herself as being in the top 15%, which is why I felt compelled to explain why so many of us Texas grads are looking for good OOS options, especially safeties. It's a struck of luck that states like Oklahoma are too happy to take in the Texas grads as their own in-state students.
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