stambliark41

are the DECA awards as big as they sound? if they are, than i would say you def. have a shot at wharton. however, an 1890 will make it near impossible to get in. a 2100 w/ a solid rank w/ an int'l award will make you a more than reasonable candidate, although you still have a good chance of being rejected (wharton is a lottery school). Your state (TN) might help you also.

If your SAT does not go up, Wharton may be too big of a reach. However, if you like it way better than NYU, def. apply to Wharton ED. If you only like Wharton slightly more, than NYU ED might be the better & more realistic choice.

Michigan has a solid business program, as does USC. Haas at Berkeley is excellent as well, but you have to reapply specifically to Haas jr yr + Berkeley it really tough to get into out of state.

darkpenguin

Well the International Competition means mainly the US and about 5 - 10 other countries. However DECA (a marketing club, which looks good for busienss maybe)is really big in the US, it is in every public high school (by law) and there are 170,000 students in the organization. There are different events and in my event I was top ten. However, I don't know if the admissions people know all this so it sounds really good doesnt it anyway, lol. But I would say it is the equivalent of beinga top winner in a respectable national competition.

So you say with higher SAT scores you think I could not only get into UPenn, but actually handle the coursework when I am a student. Also, you're saying if it doesn't go up just do ED to Stern even though UPenn may be a better choice for me, but if I didn't do ED to Stern I may not get into either Stern or Penn?

Thanks

irock1ce

darkpenguin - DECA is NOT in every public high school. i just graduated from a HUGE public high school and there definitely was no DECA. I also know many other high schools around here that do not have DECA... hell, the only one that do is 30 minutes away. Just to clear something up. Pull up that SAT score and how are your SAT IIs? Are they just as low as your SATI? Make sure you get past 750 on MathIIC for any buiness school.. they LOVE math people.

ABirch III

"I think you might end up getting a more diverse student body at NYU, in terms of economic diversity at least (LOT of rich kids at Penn), but I'm not sure about that one."

I'm not too sure about that. I know people at both NYU and Penn (I'll be going to NYU in the fall), and the amount of tuition charged is virtually the same at both schools. I don't think one is going to give you a more "diverse" student body than the other in terms of econmics. Both schools will be mostly composed of upper-middle class people, i.e. not the average 30K income but not billionaires either. Of course, at both schools, there will be a minority of people who are either working class or absurdly wealthy (e.g. Olsen twins at NYU), but I'd say the majority don't fall into these catagories.

Both are great schools, but I just don't think diversity should be the deciding factor between them, this isn't Bob Jones U vs. [insert extremely diverse college here].

bern700

oh man shrek you're in for a very big surprise when you come to penn...next time this year come back and tell me if there arent that many rich kids at penn. When half your friends have private jets, a weekend house in the hamptons, a summer house in nantucket, and a chalet in switzerland...remind yourself that the whole rich people at ivy league schools is a misconception.

ABirch III

I think you're wrong Bern700. It all depends on how you define "rich". I go to a boarding school, which tend to have the same false "everyone is rich" stigma as the Ivies and elite privates. Yet, everyone in my school is not rich, many are on financial aid, and boarding schools tend to be at least as, if not more economically homogenus than top colleges. Even those who don't recieve aid are not all of the type who go to Swiss chalets for the weekend (though of course people like this do exist, they just don't represent the norm). Similarly, the average kid at Penn does NOT come from a family which owns a private jet. Sure, there are rich people, like at any school that charges $40,000 a year, but it's not everyone or even most people.

darkpenguin

SAT IIs:
Biology: 700
US History: 680

I don't have any time to take another SAT except in December, in which case I'd have to do regular decision. Also, I am taking Math second semester next year and don't think it would be good to take the Math SAT 1st.

eighteenforluck

I know the idea of being in NYC is tempting, but you'll have plenty of time to be in New York once all the best marketing companies are chasing after you and that Penn degree...I say go for Wharton ED if you pull your scores up to 2000+.

Also, about the limited number of A's thing - EVERYONE who is going to be hiring knows about the Wharton curve, so they'll be more lenient regarding your GPA.

Untilted

my definition of RICH is 300K+

all three Upenn rising freshmen i know are pretty poor, all 3 got FA.