interestingguy

Most US News top 10 schools accept MORE THAN 10% of applicants.


"Fit" is mere rationalization for those who lack prestige.


Yet again, shameless shilling!

"Plus diversity" at Fordham??? lolz...

LakeWashington

Hobart College, NY
St. Lawrence University, NY
Ohio Wesleyan University
College of Wooster, OH
Texas Christian University
Pomona College, CA
Beloit College, WI
U of Denver
U of Missouri-Columbia

B0okshelf

I did too.

I mentally prepared myself for it so I've accepted it.

mom2collegekids

URM
33 ACT
780/720/710/700 on Subject Tests
3.24/4.0 UW
Weighted (Rank): 62/525 [b/c of a lot of honors/ap classes]

Could somebody organize this under reach/match/safety/no way i could get in

and also add in a few similar schools

Emory
Rice
Vanderbilt
Chicago
Cornell
Northwestern
Notre Dame
Georgetown
Lehigh
Hamilton
George Washington
Vassar
Smith


I just want a school, where I would have a good learning experience and will be able to learn a lot. Also, there needs to be some kind of social life, whether big or small
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First of all, I'm sorry to hear that you weren't accepted. It's natural to feel as you do right now...it's actually a grieving period, so don't be hard on yourself for feeling like this.

Are you a female? I'm guessing you are because of Smith.

Can I ask which URM you are? That can make a difference at some schools. Some need more AAs and some need more Hispanics, etc.

How's your aid situation? Will you need FA and qualify for FA? Do you want a "no-loan" FA package (which I'm guessing your top 10 school may have given you.)

Do you know what your EFC is?

Let us know what kind of FA package is acceptable to you. At this late of date, we don't want to be recommending schools that can't meet need or would include ridiculous loans.

I like Vandy. It meets 100% of need w/o loans and the weather is moderate! Plus, it's in fun Nashville.

rastafarian

I'm AA

Family EFC is 24k

my parents are willing to pay ~25,000

momrath

rasta, Sorry you received disappointing news. Try to focus on the next step which is to recalibrate your RD list both to achieve what you want and to maximize your chances.

OK, I looked at your thread history as you suggested and see that you have a wide range of ECs. You should try to focus on one or two that are very important to you and include some supplementary materials with your application. E.g., resume, theater and/or choir performance tape. Your essays and supplemental recommdation (non-academic) should reinforce and enhance your key areas of interest.

I also note that Duke was your #1 choice. There are several large schools on your list that have a similar feeling to Duke and I think your chance of acceptance is good. The problem is that those schools get a lot of applications from high achieving African Americans.

You may do better adding in some more LACs that have a hard time matriculating AAs. Think rural and/or midwestern, but still maintaining an extroverted, social, active atmosphere, with access to theater and music. LACs like kids who are involved in a range of ECs as they need actors, singers, political organizers etc and in a small population it helps to be multifaceted.

In that category I would add in addition to Hamiliton that is already on your list, Williams, Skidmore, Kenyon, Grinnell. Williams is a super reach but I think your URM status plus theater/choir involvement would be a plus.

I also believe that Smith will snap you up. Smith is a wonderful college, but very, very different from Duke so I'd want to think more about fit if I were you.

Erin's Dad

There are no safeties on your list (I hope you knew that). OHKid gave you some good ones. Will you need financial or merit aid?

ghostbuster

Interesting:

Your less than interesting ad hominem attack upon me and your unprofessional swipe at Fordham were wholly unnecessary.

Most US News top 10 schools accept MORE THAN 10% of applicants= you. Prove it. I said, "most", not all.

"Fit" is mere rationalization for those who lack prestige.=you. Fordham has plenty of prestige, fwiw, but my comment was intended to help someone come to reality with an average gpa and to focus upon those schools where the OP is more likely to be accepted. That you took personal offense at such an innocuous and general statement is a bit over the top. It wasnt aimed at you or your particular school, whatever that may be. But its also fact.....most professionals support my position that fit trumps prestige. What good is prestige if you are a poor fit and headed for disaster or unhappiness? Fit applies to all schools in all tiers of the rankings.

Yet again, shameless shilling!
"Plus diversity" at Fordham??? lolz... = You.

I don't apologize to anyone for my support of Fordham. I am not shilling, I am promoting and recommending Fordham to those desiring a world class education in New York City, a Jesuit ethos, among other fine attributes. If its not for you (or someone else) that is fine. Fordham had over 24,000 applications last year. I have also recommended many, many other schools on CC in my postings. I don't shill for anyone.

Fordham is proud of its diversity: about 5% African American, 12% Asian/Islander, and 14% Hispanic. You got a problem with that? For an expensive private national research university, those are pretty good numbers.

Have a nice day and best of luck to the OP.

interestingguy

No, you did not say "most." This is what you said verbatim:

"Being rejected by a top 10 is NOT a bad thing. Fewer than 10% get in, even with OUTSTANDING stats and scores."



Is a 3.1 peer assessment (PA) considered "prestigious"?



I'd like to meet these professionals. If "fit" does indeed trump prestige, then top 10 schools would not have single-digit acceptance rates in the first place.



Of course, you're not.



Why? Fordham has little to no religious or socioeconomic or geographic diversity...

interestingguy

To the OP: make sure you have a "financial safety."

Good luck!

LakeWashington

Since we now know that the OP is a young lady, let me amend a suggestion;

William Smith College, NY

William Smith is the womens college in the unique 'Hobart and William Smith Colleges' arrangement. One campus, two schools, two separate administrations that are independent of one another. Fine academics and a beautiful region of upstate New York to boot! Cornell, Syracuse, Hamilton are not terribly far away either.

mom2collegekids

I agree with the Fordham suggestion.

Since the OP says her family's EFC is about $24k and her parents can meet that EFC

So, she needs schools that will provide the right FA to meet the rest of the costs.


OP...what are your feelings about loans? Are small ones ok (like $5k per year or so)?


U Indiana would probably give you a good merit scholarship.


COA per year for OOS students at OOS State University

$25,787, U MINNESOTA
$31,872, VIRGINIA TECH
$34,812, U IOWA
$35,029, U WISCONSIN
$36,210, OHIO STATE
$35,311, U N CAROLINA
$40,086, U GEORGIA
$36,977, RUTGERS
$34,696, TEXAS A&M
$34,922, U DELAWARE
$36,094, U FLORIDA
$32,752, U PITTSBURGH
$37,416, U MARYLAND
$36,985, U WASHINGTON
$37,548, CLEMSON
$36,848, PURDUE
$39,146, U CONNECTICUT
$38,120, GEORGIA TECH
$40,130, U ILLINOIS
$39,510, PENN STATE
$37,644, INDIANA U
$38,566, MICHIGAN ST
$48,041, UC IRVINE
$49,193, UCLA
$50,306, UC BERKELEY
$38,974, WILLIAM & MARY
$43,742, U TEXAS
$49,926, UC S BARBARA
$46,699, UC SAN DIEGO
$48,049, UC DAVIS
$39,483, UC S CRUZ
$42,570, U VIRGINIA
$47,188, U MICHIGAN

interestingguy

The OP can do much better than Fordham.

Ryan82

Interestingguy, seriously, why are you even on here?

Whereas other users actually help students and parents regarding colleges, all you do is unnecessarily berate people. You rarely actually help anybody.

If you are going to have suggestions at least be constructive.

interestingguy

Ryan82,


Based on the OP's stats and profile, I made the constructive suggestion that s/he not settle for the likes of Fordham. I also suggested that s/he seek a financial safety as well.

Just because I don't sugarcoat my messages doesn't mean I am not trying to help.

Last but not least, I will continue to call out CC members who repeatedly promote their own (or their kids') alma mater instead of truly offering objective information and advice.