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How are the SUNY/CUNY schools perceived outside of New York State?

collegehelpcollegehelp Posts: 6,365Registered User Senior Member
edited March 2013 in College Search & Selection
Within NYS, there is a stigma associated with them even though SUNY Geneseo, Binghamton, Buffalo, and Stony Brook have respectable selectivity. Are any of them known at all outside of NYS? Are any of them respected?

school, SAT 25th percentile, SAT 75th percentile, SAT midpoint

SUNY at Geneseo 1250 1390 1320
SUNY at Binghamton 1180 1340 1260
SUNY at Stony Brook 1080 1280 1180
SUNY at Buffalo 1040 1260 1150
SUNY College of Environmental Science and Forestry 1050 1230 1140
SUNY College at New Paltz 1040 1210 1125
CUNY Bernard M Baruch College 1060 1170 1115
SUNY Maritime College 950 1260 1105
SUNY at Fredonia 1010 1190 1100
SUNY College at Oswego 1030 1170 1100
SUNY at Albany 1000 1190 1095
SUNY College at Purchase 980 1200 1090
CUNY Hunter College 980 1180 1080
SUNY College at Brockport 980 1180 1080
SUNY College at Oneonta 1000 1160 1080
SUNY Institute of Technology at Utica-Rome 980 1170 1075
SUNY College at Cortland 980 1130 1055
SUNY-Potsdam 950 1160 1055
SUNY College at Plattsburgh 950 1150 1050
CUNY Brooklyn College 940 1140 1040
SUNY College of Agriculture and Technology at Cobleskill 940 1140 1040
CUNY Queens College 920 1130 1025
CUNY City College 850 1140 995
SUNY College at Buffalo 890 1070 980
CUNY College of Staten Island 870 1070 970
SUNY College at Old Westbury 890 1040 965
SUNY College of Technology at Alfred 840 1070 955
CUNY John Jay College Criminal Justice 850 1030 940
SUNY College of Technology at Delhi 700 1115 907.5
CUNY Lehman College 810 1000 905
CUNY York College 760 940 850
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Replies to: How are the SUNY/CUNY schools perceived outside of New York State?

  • tomofbostontomofboston Posts: 2,117Registered User Senior Member
    Pretty much unknown outside of NYS, even in New England. I believe that some CUNY schools (Baruch, John Jay, Hunter) are the best known and respected.
  • nightpwnsj00nightpwnsj00 Posts: 482Registered User Member
    There's not much of a stigma towards CUNY/SUNY here. While I would rather attend my privates than Purchase (the lone state school that I applied to), most other people didn't even bother applying to privates. The majority of the students here applied to the local CC + Stony Brook/Binghamton/Albany/Geneseo/New Paltz/etc.
  • collegehelpcollegehelp Posts: 6,365Registered User Senior Member
    I think almost all students go to SUNY or CUNY for financial reasons, not becaues they believe they are great schools. Within NYS, I think Geneseo has a bit of a good reputation. SUNY does not have a flagship school.
  • schriztoschrizto Posts: 4,099Registered User Senior Member
    I think that SUNY-Stony Brook and Binghamton are the most well known. Stony Brook is the most nationally visible one because it has a very good medical school and well regarded graduate programs.
  • gapyearstudentgapyearstudent Posts: 1,679Registered User Senior Member
    I wanna know this too. But to be honest, I don't really care what everybody thinks, just what graduate or professional schools think.
  • DuckieStyleDuckieStyle Posts: 128- Junior Member
    Sorry to say this, but no one knows about them. For he first 3 months I was on CC I was like "what the f*** is SUNY?" untill someone mentioned what it actually was in a post...
  • collegehelpcollegehelp Posts: 6,365Registered User Senior Member
    It seems worse than I imagined. Do none of the SUNY/CUNY schools have a decent national reputation? What a shame.

    Why are SUNY/CUNY so undistinguished?
  • Flipper519Flipper519 Posts: 812Registered User Member
    I think Binghamton and Stony Brook have some out of state recognition.
  • tomofbostontomofboston Posts: 2,117Registered User Senior Member
    SUNY has no "flagship" campus. Every campus is supposed to be the same, which is not true. The better campuses like Stony Brook and Binghamton are dragged down by this notion. Also, no big time athletics, that is why so few people know about SUNY/CUNY outside of NYS.
  • collegehelpcollegehelp Posts: 6,365Registered User Senior Member
    ^True. If you want the "public flagship" experience in NYS, you have to go to Syracuse U (which, of course, is private). Syracuse is roughly similar to Ohio State or Minnesota.
  • m4dskillz07m4dskillz07 Posts: 405Registered User Member
    Not very well
  • TaggartNYTaggartNY Posts: 304Registered User Junior Member
    stony brook might get some recognition because of the scientific research, but I can assure you that the non-science programs are awful. Also it's very easy to get in.
  • mom2collegekidsmom2collegekids Posts: 61,319Registered User Senior Member
    SUNY has no "flagship" campus. Every campus is supposed to be the same, which is not true. The better campuses like Stony Brook and Binghamton are dragged down by this notion.

    Also, no big time athletics, that is why so few people know about SUNY/CUNY outside of NYS.



    I think of the SUNYs like I think of the Cal States (CSUs). No flagship, but some CSUs are better than others. Of course, Calif also has the UC system with Berkeley as the flagship with arguably UCLA as a co-flagship.

    The no big sports at SUNYs is a curious thing since, of course, NYers do love sports. So, why is that? The Calif schools have big sports at some UCs and some CSUs.
  • modestmelodymodestmelody Posts: 4,651Registered User Senior Member
    SUNYs are simply not very good and are known for that in and out of NY. It's basically Binghamton and Buffalo as two pretty decent schools, + Albany for nano and a few other fields, + Stonybrook for sciences (but pretty much only grad level), + Geneseo for someone who wants a more LAC feel at public price.

    Even then, kids from top schools in NY who are simply pretty good students in regular classes can get into all but Bing and Geneseo. There is little motivation for the top students to stay and actually enroll. The locations are considered undesirable as is the size of many of the better schools.

    My sister has done very well and got a great education at Buffalo, but even then, her work at one of the top SUNYs as a senior with a near perfect GPA pales in comparison to the expectations of most top 50 schools. My friends in SUNYs who got the best education are the Buffalo engineers, by far.

    What the SUNY system has is a wonderful setup to take on the task of providing a strong education to kids in the middle 80%. That's not going to build prestige or reputation. I think it's one of the best state systems because it is ostensibly well suited for public education. It's a flagship to draw in some of those top 20% kids short of being the best system, but no school right now is going to draw from afar and it probably shouldn't.
  • noimaginationnoimagination Posts: 7,016Registered User Senior Member
    Stony Brook is quite well-known for math and science.
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