Originally Posted by BearCub
IMO, UPENN is the better choice because it's less cut-throat...
I don't know about that, but it's perhaps worth noting that Hopkins has as many med school applicants (323) as Penn (334) despite being less than half its size, so the percentage of pre-meds at Hopkins is much greater. As a chemistry major, however, I'm not sure one would notice the difference. Both departments have about 10 majors a year, and the percentage of pre-meds is probably similar in both.
Originally Posted by RML
I heard almost everyone at JHU premed was accepted to med school many of them at JHU med school. if that's true then JHU is better.
There are so many things wrong with this post!
1) There is no way of knowing how many pre-meds at either school are accepted to medical school, for the obvious reason that many are weeded out and choose not to apply. Most schools do not track their pre-meds from day 1, so there is no way of knowing how many even get to the application stage.
2) 63% of Hopkins applicants were accepted to at least one medical school. This is actually not as bad as it sounds, since it includes some very obviously unqualified applicants, but it is still far from "almost everyone."
3) The percentage and stats of actually qualified Hopkins students admitted to med school seem pretty much in line with those of other elite schools. The average accepted JHU student had a 3.55 overall GPA and a 3.48 science GPA; the average accepted Duke student had a 3.55 overall GPA and a 3.38 science GPA.
4) Hopkins graduates make up 16 students in each JHU Med class. Put another way, 1 out of every 20 med school applicants at JHU ends up at JHU Med. Most of the other elite schools send 4-5 students to Hopkins. All of this is true. It does not, however, account for the actual number of applicants and the number of admits. Again using Duke as an example, nearly 3 times as many Duke students apply to Duke Med as Hopkins Med -- and the magic number again applies, as about 1 out of every 20 med school applicants at Duke ends up at Duke Med. You would find a similar scenario for Harvard students at Harvard Med, Penn students at Penn Med, etc. Higher numbers of applicants (and thus admits) do not, however, necessarily correlate to increased chances of admission.
I doubt there's a difference between the two. I agree with those recommending applying to both and choosing between them if you have the luxury of doing so.