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Old 12-27-2006, 11:24 PM   #16
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one thing to note about the LLC (Hartley/Wallach): they are both "substance free" dorms. basically if you are found in possession of or associating with those in possession of any kind of alcohol/drugs, you will lose housing for the entire year.


Edit: in possession of inside your dorm that is.
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Old 01-11-2007, 12:10 AM   #17
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Anyone who's willing to answer:

If you had to choose between the LLC and JJ for freshman year, what would you choose? Are you allowed to put down that you want a single for LLC? or is JJ your straight up best bet for a single?

is JJ more social than people make it out to be?

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Old 01-11-2007, 01:48 AM   #18
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If you had to choose between the LLC and JJ for freshman year, what would you choose? Are you allowed to put down that you want a single for LLC? or is JJ your straight up best bet for a single?
u can specify single or double in the buildings where both are offered (LLC, Furnald, John Jay). You will have to rank all 7 or 8 posibilities in the order that you would prefer them. If you are just after a single, i think your best bet is JJ. Though furnald is a much nicer building, u will feel cut off from the rest of the freshmen and in the LLC you have to put up with silly ******** and living in a suite with people you dont know can get annoying

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is JJ more social than people make it out to be?
yes....and its pretty much up to you whether or not you want to be social there
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Old 01-11-2007, 02:23 AM   #19
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your chances of getting an LLC single as a freshman are slim to none though, most likely you will be put in a double with another freshman.

like shraf said, if all you want is a single then go for JJ, unless you get really screwed with a walkthru double, you'll have a single (small small small chance of that tho)

JJ is social as long as you open your door and go meet people. it all depends on you.
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Old 01-11-2007, 10:12 PM   #20
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Thanks to both of you Shraf and Skraylor! I really appreciate it.
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Old 01-16-2007, 04:36 PM   #21
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First off, it's CarmAn. Spell it right!

Second of all, I'd highly recommend living in JJ or Carman. I personally lived in the latter and thoroughly enjoyed it. I also spend soph year in Furnald and really wouldn't recommend it for freshmen and here's why. Living in an all frosh dorm is very communal. Everyone wants to get to know everyone else. For the first week or so it's even acceptable to introduce yourself to perfect strangers in the elevators, among other normally weird things. There's lots of floor bonding and things like that. Because Furnald is both largely singles and at least half-sophomore, its not exactly like that. The sophomores already have their network of friends who are spread out across the other dorms now, so they'll tend to stick to themselves and do their own thing. Furnald ends up being very quiet and solitary. If you like flying solo, it's the perfect dorm for you (unless you end up in a double, heh).

The LLC is a hybrid. It's not all frosh, but it's very communal, which is nice since you'll be living with people who can offer you a lot of advice about navigating Columbia. Plus the buildings are physically connected to JJ on the ground floor.

And that's my advice.
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Old 01-17-2007, 08:55 PM   #22
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Someone said earlier that they were considering getting a double because he/she thinks it will be easier to make friends, and I thought about this too. Back when I was thinking about first-year housing, I thought about throwing myself into a double because I thought if I had a single, I'd hole myself up in my room, because I'm just not the type of person who jumps to introduce myself to a group of strangers. I'm so glad I ended up putting down a single. If you're on the shy side and you're thinking about getting a double to help you make friends, I would say reconsider. You'll do fine making friends in JJ, and if you really are shy, you may really be thankful for the refuge of a single from time to time. It's not like Carman is the social dorm, so JJ is the unsocial dorm; they're just different types of social. Put down the dorm that best fits who you are not who you want to be; the same piece of advice is given about other housing questionaires--if you're a smoker and thinking about quitting, don't put down that you're not a smoker. If you're messy and you want to be neater, don't put down that you're neat, because it may not work out.
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Old 01-17-2007, 09:05 PM   #23
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oh god, yes, please be honest about the smoking/neatness thing. The guy living in the other room of my Carman doorway said he deliberately put down neat even though he was the worst slob I ever met, just so he'd get a clean roommate who'd clean his mess up. We nearly killed him on multiple occasions...
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Old 01-24-2007, 10:09 PM   #24
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Thanks for the advice everyone. Looks like it might be JJ for me!
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Old 02-13-2007, 05:35 PM   #25
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alcohol policy

someone before mentioned getting kicked out of housing for the year if you are caught with alcohol in the one of the dorms. how stringent is the alcohol policy? basically do people get in trouble all the time or is it sort a "don't ask don't tell" kind of a thing?
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Old 02-13-2007, 05:49 PM   #26
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its mostly BS, they might write u up and give you a warning, but if you are discreet about it and not like drink in the hallway or have VERY loud parties you should be fine. Its not a concern after freshman year mostly though since all upperclassman dorms are "wet" dorms where alcohol is allowed.
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Old 02-13-2007, 09:15 PM   #27
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i said that you will get kicked out of housing if you are in the LLC (hartley or wallach) and that policy, i imagine, is fairly strict (at the very least its enough to scare people to not do it)

the other dorms you wont get kicked out.
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Old 02-25-2007, 01:49 PM   #28
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Housing

Something to keep in mind:

Sophomore housing is, generally speaking, pretty bad, because you're at the bottom of the housing lottery and you can get stuck in a double as a sophomore. The only other sophomore housing with guaranteed singles is Furnald, which is really difficult to get into.
The LLC runs separately from the rest of campus housing. This means that non-freshman must apply to get in. Living in the LLC is a huge advantage to getting back in the next year, especially if you don't do anything too terrible/**** off your RA. Choosing the LLC as a freshman gives you really good chances for getting a single as a sophomore right on campus, if that's what important to you.
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Old 02-25-2007, 04:01 PM   #29
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Choosing the LLC as a freshman gives you really good chances for getting a single as a sophomore right on campus, if that's what important to you.
but on the other hand you miss out on the experience of being in JJ/carman which i feel is alot more important than having a guaranteed 80sq ft single in the LLC your soph yr
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Old 02-26-2007, 12:04 AM   #30
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Additionally, a lot of people I know in the LLC this year arent bothering to reapply because they didnt like it.
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